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Nr. 26 & Nr. 16 wear „Garibaldi-Damast":
https://books.google.com/books?id=tD4VAQAAIAAJ&lpg=PT35&ots=lEs7XXVBXP&dq=%E2%80%9EGaribaldi-Damast%22&pg=PT35#v=onepage&q=%E2%80%9EGaribaldi-Damast%22&f=false
List also pattern welded types:
Band-Damast-Läufe
Bernard-Damast
Crollé Damastläufen
Garibaldi-Damast
Hufnagel-Damast Läufen
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Although possibly not the „Waidmannssprache" but from a 1916 Handbook for Hunters, the following common pattern welded types under the Damast term:
Bernard,
Rosen,
Laminette,
Garibaldi und
Moiée-D.(spelling?)
„Damas anglais".
https://books.google.com/books?id=otqEAAAAIAAJ&lpg=PA69&ots=jWh6fdh3Pd&dq=garibaldi%20damastl%C3%A4ufen&pg=PA69#v=onepage&q=garibaldi%20damastl%C3%A4ufen&f=false
Interesting phrase: „Damastläufe werden fast ausschließlich in Belgien hergestellt."
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Raimey,
Wolfgang is certainly well versed in "Waidmannssprache" which is "Hunters language", similarly, gunsmiths/gunmakers had their own terms of art that would differ from Waidmannssprache, but would often be of interest to hunters. It is likely that a conversation in a gunsmith shop would include both of these, normal German, and one or more local dialects.
Mike
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Sure Ford, but it is my opinion that those w/ the knowledge have set sail and made the voyage on to the Great Hunting Grounds......
If you know of one that is left, please send me his contact info.
Cheers,
Raimey
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Raimey,
Wolfgang is certainly well versed in "Waidmannssprache" which is "Hunters language",..... I think Wolfgang is going to put on a „Waidmannssprache" seminar in Bonn or possibly a webinar??? Cheers, Raimey rse
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Raimey,
For questions regarding "Waidmannssprache", you can ask Axel, he is a certified instructor and administers the tests for aspiring hunters. You have his info.
For questions regarding gunsmithing/gunmaking terms, ask Walter Grass, Helmut Kerner, Gerold Pfeffer, Hans Zimmermann, or Rudi Henneberger. They were still "kicking" when I left, but except for Walter, I haven't spoken to them since. I don't have their info, but I'm confident you can find it.
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Raimey, nice idea! I will see, what I can do..!
Cheers,
Wolfgang
P. S. You forgot the Boston Damast
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Bernard,
Boston,
Rosen,
Laminette,
Garibaldi und
Moiée-D.(spelling?)
„Damas anglais".
Wolfgang:
Any wild idea on the „Garibaldi"?
Cheers,
Raimey
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Raimey, still searching
Already found:
Laminette-Ruban-
Damast:
Landesbezeichnung für einen Kombinationsdamast. Hierbei liegt tordierter Damast neben gestreiftem Damast. Spezialität bei Gewehr- und Pistolenläufen.
Bernard Damast:
Nicolas, Leopold Bernard; Bernard stammt aus einer Büchsenmacherfamilie aus Paris. Etwa 1804 soll er mit der gewerbsmäßigen Fertigung von Damastläufen in Paris begonnen haben. Ihm sagt man die Entwicklung des sog. Bernard-Damastes nach. Der Bernard-Damast hat im Grundpaket einen schach-brettartigen Aufbau. Bernard-
Damast war später eine Musterbezeichnung für Gewehrläufe mit dieser Art Damast wie z. B. Bernard I, Bernard II, Leopold Bernard, Bernard Extra. Bernard-Damast wurde in erster Linie in Lüttich (Vesdre Tal) gefertigt.
^Cheers,
Wolfgang
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And:
Moiré , französisch, "geflammt", Oberflächenmusterung bei * Damaststahl
Cheers,
Wolfgang
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