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I love the look and feel of this gun 6lbs 5 oz. very thin in the grip, shoulders and swings nicely! A simple provincial gun marked F. Davie out of Elgin Morayshire. So lets see what you have! 
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I like the wood on that one!...Geo
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2nd on the wood
Do you own it?
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no longer have any Scottish doubles but I still have a Robert Hughes 577-450 Martini sporting rifle.
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That Arthur Allan is sharp! What does it weigh? Do you notice any modifications in the frame from a standard Birmingham gun? Mine is very plain but smaller in the frame and stock, as in thinner.
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Hi, I only have one, a J. Harkom & Son. Very nice light and handling 12b. I really like her:  Best, Greg
Gregory J. Westberg
MSG, USA
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Harkom is definitely a name Ive heard and seen, some nice guns out of that shop, and yours is great! Thank you for posting!
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Charles Ingram side lock, Glasgow, in it's original Ingram case. 
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Going a bit further back in time but here's a William Landell of Glasgow.  
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That Dickson is interesting! How does it work?
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Pull back the trigger guard to open
Move the top slide forward to add additional locking of the action
Squeeze the grip to take the safety off
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Dickson has always been one of my favorites, I think the next one will be a simple boxlock by this maker!
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From Bothwell, Scotlanda 12 ga pheasant gun 6lbs 10ozs and a 16ga grouse gun 5lbs 15ozs. Still looking for a nice Dickson and a Horton. 
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James MacNaughton 12 bore ejector,29" nitro damascus,choked mod&mod,one set of original nitro proof marks circa 1900,bore dimensions as built.Delivered to original owner in 1923,marked in records as best ejector damascus. A delight to shoot. "Floats like a butterfly, stings like a bee"  [/url][/img]  [/url][/img]  [/url][/img]  [/url][/img]
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Terry if not too much trouble, what is the grip width where the tang meets the comb nose. Lovely shotgun.
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My Double is very similar in the grip, I love it, its very thin but not that thin! 
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A double flinter - Barrels by Blaikie of Glasgow Lockplates marked "innes" guns been converted to percussion by way of drum and nipple, blaikie also patented a machine for slicing bread, which makes this gun the best thing since sliced bread. - For that pundit alone i had to have it.
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That MacNaughton is one sweet slender gun. I like it!
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Here are some more Scottish oldies. A 14-bore pinfire gun by Hugh Snowie of Inverness, possibly made before 1860:  Second is a 12-bore pinfire gun by James Erskine of Newton Stewart, probably mid-1860s:  Third is a single-barrelled 12-bore pinfire gun by John Dickson & Son of Edinburgh, made in 1867:  I also have two J. D. Dougall pinfires and a 12-bore pinfire by Edward Paton of Perth, but who (besides me) wants to look at pinfires all day?
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Hello PG. The grip width at that point is 1.075 inches.Cheers
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2nd on the wood
Do you own it? Yes!
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The only Scottish gun's I have are a pair of 16ga SLE's from Alex Martin circa 1926  I could not resist the Celtic engraving
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Mike,
I feel that the Celtic engraving only adds to the character of a Scottish gun. Your's is especially nicely done.
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I wish I could determine for sure the actual producer and engraver for the guns. (Probably should start a different thread)
I believe Alex Martin made the guns in house but I am sure engraved patterned which matches their standard pattern was done by an out worker
( I have collected a number of pictures of 12 ga Martin SLE Celtic guns and the patterns match mine as well as Alex Henry guns of similar time frame)
I must say the wood on RARidells gun is much nicer.
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Hey Mike,
Dickson has the records, Donald Dallas mentioned AABrown and also found out Holloway and AE Bayliss were suppliers to Alex Martin. Its a start, best of luck and great looking guns! Aside from the wood its very plain!
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I'm late to the Scottish-fest, but thought I'd add my "pair" of Frasers. (I just realized I don't have a lot of great photos of the guns so these are the old auction house photos). First the rifle (.303 Velox converted to 7.65 Argentine)  And the shotgun 
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Thats a nice looking shotgun, what is the weight? I love the little detail on the forend!
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Wood & Engraving, Engraving & Wood. WOW ! On both.
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