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I got a new perspective on the "do something" movement yesterday evening, and it's been bothering me ever since. A distraught father came over last night to talk about his grown son being in jail for felony firearm possession (by a felon).
His boy has been a nutcase since birth and in jail most of the last 15 years, on and off. He has a felony conviction among a lot of other things, mostly drug related, but has been out a few months on probation now living with his mom and dad. He has been working a labor job but has gotten back in to meth.
His dad says the meth has led to a serious paranoia problem and the boy/young man has developed the delusion that he needs a gun for protection from rival ex prison gang members. He bought one off the street (probably stolen) and his dad has been helpfully trying to show him how the 9mm auto pistol works. He even signed the son up for "safe shooting lessons".
Things went bad recently and the boy and his mom got into a screaming fight, resulting in the son firing the weapon. Neighbors called police and they arrested him.
Dad's concern was what safer gun, maybe a revolver in a smaller caliber he could get the boy if he got out of jail, which he always seems to do. I told the dad he was the problem for enabling not to mention aiding and abetting his son's felony gun possession.
The dad's response was "we have to do something about the gun show loophole" which he says caused the problem. I pointed out that the gunshow loophole had nothing to do with a convicted felon buying a stolen 9 off the street, and why should I pay the price of loss of my rights for his kid's mental illness.
The problem is that the dad's take on the matter is what I am afraid has become the majority opinion in the country. I don't like what I see in the future, but like King, I'm old anyway...Geo
Sorry for the rant. That was a good rant though George.....unlike Kings little crazy socialism rant.
Socialism is almost the worst.
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Plus one, Geo. Last week our provincial newspaper ran a front-page story above the fold of community pity for a young murderer who went wrong a few times, more sympathy for the "good boy" than the victim, for which there was none. (When the time comes, I'm ready to go. I've seen enough of this picture show.)
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What made it a good post, buzz, is that he described a situation and rational response in expressing an opinion. Sure beats mindless duelling.
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Seems like, to me, the father is more "Fubared" than his meth-head son. Trying to encourage this walking drugged up meth-head to carry and shoot any sort of weapon, handgun or otherwise, is like giving an arsonist a gallon of Kerosene and a Zippo lighter-- What in the Hell is wrong with this family? And the "gun-show loophole" doesn't mean squat- Give my 20 Benjamins and I'll stroll down Grand Rapids notorious Division Ave. at night (with my S&W M39 in the Yaqui holster of course) and I'll get you most any kind of handgun you want- NO 4473 or "Stevie Nichts" checky-checky-- RWTF
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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The 8 years us working/retired from jobs white folks had to endure old Barracks-Bag O-Bammy were a nightmare-- That idiot had no more qualification to be our POTUS than did Alfred E. Nuemann, the poster boy for MAD magazine. Eight years pissed down the drain--RWTF
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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I got a new perspective on the "do something" movement yesterday evening, and it's been bothering me ever since. A distraught father came over last night to talk about his grown son being in jail for felony firearm possession (by a felon).
His boy has been a nutcase since birth and in jail most of the last 15 years, on and off. He has a felony conviction among a lot of other things, mostly drug related, but has been out a few months on probation now living with his mom and dad. He has been working a labor job but has gotten back in to meth.
His dad says the meth has led to a serious paranoia problem and the boy/young man has developed the delusion that he needs a gun for protection from rival ex prison gang members. He bought one off the street (probably stolen) and his dad has been helpfully trying to show him how the 9mm auto pistol works. He even signed the son up for "safe shooting lessons".
Things went bad recently and the boy and his mom got into a screaming fight, resulting in the son firing the weapon. Neighbors called police and they arrested him.
Dad's concern was what safer gun, maybe a revolver in a smaller caliber he could get the boy if he got out of jail, which he always seems to do. I told the dad he was the problem for enabling not to mention aiding and abetting his son's felony gun possession.
The dad's response was "we have to do something about the gun show loophole" which he says caused the problem. I pointed out that the gunshow loophole had nothing to do with a convicted felon buying a stolen 9 off the street, and why should I pay the price of loss of my rights for his kid's mental illness.
The problem is that the dad's take on the matter is what I am afraid has become the majority opinion in the country. I don't like what I see in the future, but like King, I'm old anyway...Geo
Sorry for the rant. Case in point as to why the approach shouldnt be what kind of firearm one can possess, but rather who should be able to possess a firearm. Dad should be disabused of his guns as well. Who knows what prohibited person he is going to help out next.
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Be polite, keith. I asked a question. When you answer mine, I'll respond to yours King what is the question that you say I have not answered? I always answer your questions, although you probably rarely like or agree with my answers to you. On the other hand, you have a long history of evading my questions and either changing the subject, or slipping away in hopes I'll forget to ask again. So once again, what is the question that you want me to answer... And please tell us when and where you asked it?
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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....The problem is that the dad's take on the matter is what I am afraid has become the majority opinion in the country. I don't like what I see in the future, but like King, I'm old anyway...Geo
Sorry for the rant. Case in point as to why the approach shouldnt be what kind of firearm one can possess, but rather who should be able to possess a firearm. Dad should be disabused of his guns as well. Who knows what prohibited person he is going to help out next. Geo has an interesting story, but are you trying to say that the left wing anti gunners that you want us to vote for are gun owning enthusiast with drug addicted kids? The people who want to drive policy are hypocritical non gunners, who believe a few of them should be able to dictate to all law abiding citizens. I certainly would not want someone like you to arbitrarily decide who gets to own a gun.
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Geo has an interesting story, but are you trying to say that the left wing anti gunners that you want us to vote for are gun owning enthusiast with drug addicted kids? The people who want to drive policy are hypocritical non gunners, who believe a few of them should be able to dictate to all law abiding citizens. I certainly would not want someone like you to arbitrarily decide who gets to own a gun.
Well craig, seeing as how you think Geos farmer buddy, is a law abiding citizen, I dont blame you for being worried if the decision were up to me. I for one do not think a disloyal person should be able to possess firearms against their country. But dont worry, at least for now, its not up to me.
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A page back: "Ever wonder how the one per cent got to owning and running the world?"
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