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Who is RMB.

Rocky Mountain Bill

Great lines! I like the panels that run from the chamber to the rear of the action, looks elegant. The forend tip is very nicely done too.

Very nice rifle!
... Joe

You know... rocky mtn bill... the little liberal Socialist guy who hates our pro-gun President Donald Trump and the NRA, and who staunchly supports and defends Liberal Left anti-gun Democrats like Obama and Hillary Clinton:













Billy is very fixated on the National Enquirer and FOX News. Anyone who doesn't agree with his Democrat dogma and his beliefs that we should give up semi-automatics and give in to the anti-gunners on Universal Background checks is immediately judged to be stupid and clueless by Billy. He says they need the National Enquirer or FOX News to think for them.

Billy is one of those FUDD's who actually thinks that if we give up semi-autos, large cap magazines, and the guns he doesn't personally care for, then the anti-gunners will leave him and his rifles alone.

Billy doesn't like to post his anti-Trump, anti-NRA, or anti-gun stuff here in the Custom Rifle forum. For some reason, he prefers to post that stuff in the main double shotgun forum.

Keith, calm down. That's a handsome rifle.

Blah, Blah,Blah.....

Calm down yourself Pete. I was simply answering the question about who RMB is. I didn't denigrate the rifle in any way. The rifle is an inanimate object, just like the AR-15's that Billy hates so much. Since it fires projectiles at high velocity which could penetrate police body armor, many of the politicians that Billy supports would like to ban it. And we know that you agree with Billy when it comes to politics. Same for SKB, who has no love for Trump either.

Only a fool would tolerate, let alone admire, Donald Trump. I have to admit that firing John Bolton has my approval, but I have no expectation that his replacement will be any better. Trump promised to hire " only the best people". Any qualified hires have long since resigned, leaving only the sycophants and opportunists. The revolving door is at hazard to burst into flames.

Blah, blah, blah...blah......blah.

Thanks to you and Steve for the pics. Maybe, next time, do a half blah, blah, and the other half talk about the project? Just kidding, I can't wait to read about your passion.

Please note Doublegun forum has a very useful feature:

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It's really easy to turn it on, so you don't have to see the posts, of those who can not stay on topic

You should recommend it highly for Frank and "keith"

My apologies, I misspelled that earlier. Should be "Wah, Wah, Wah"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

SKB, Thanks for posting the pictures. They aren't very good ones but had to be done quickly. As for the project, I admire the Fraser bolt rifles a lot but gave up on ever seeing one in the flesh let alone owning it. So, I made this interpretation based on pictures you'd posted here earlier and some auction catalog photos. I'd have liked to duplicate the Fraser bolt handle but don't have the talent or a clear sense of its details. The stock profile is part Fraser and part details from my late friend and photographer Dave Pierce. If I were wealthy, I'd have had some Fraser style engraving. Scottish gun engraving is unique and special.

No thanks BrentD. Even though Billy cannot seem to stay on the topic of double guns, we shouldn't IGNORE his post because it's important to see and understand that we have so-called gun guys who vote for and support the Liberal Left Democrats anti-gunners who work relentlessly to take away our gun rights.

And besides that, the IGNORE function never worked for you anyway. But your little fellow doxxing friend Stevie is crying again, so why don't you change his diaper?

I consider it a small bit of public service to reveal the identity of some one so low as to hack the hard drive another forum member. It has been my pleasure William.



How is the weather in Pulaski Billie?

Keith, I don't need you to explain who I am. As your quotes illustrate, I'm perfectly capable of saying where I stand, and I stand behind what I say until I see I'm in error. When that happens, I'm fully capable of changing my mind. You,too, have a knack for saying what you believe even though that belief is based on nonsense you were told by your handlers. Your special talent is to parrot propaganda as if it were pure gold. You have perfected ignorance. Conflatulations.

Hahaha, that's really funny Billy. It seems to me that the ones here who exhibit perfect ignorance are those who claim to be gun guys... Yet they are ignorant enough to vote for the very people who despise guns and vow to take on the NRA and continue to infringe upon the 2nd Amendment Rights of law abiding citizens.


That's just a nice topping for your desire to return to the type of economic malaise we had for 8 years under Obama, and judging by tonight's Dumbocrat debate, a weasel to ISIS to ISIS in Afghanistan, and Trillions in New spending and new taxes.

So tell us oh fairy gunsmith Stevie... just what is your public service????

It would appear that it is to once again jump to the defense of your boyfriend Shortshells. I guess you feel it is acceptable for your queer little friend to threaten me here, and to send intimidation mail to my house. You both are meant for each other. You are both spineless cowards.

And why don't you care to comment on your continuous free advertising and self promotion of your businesses here? Your buddy King felt that I was cheating Dave with my tagline that contained a link to the NRA Political Victory Fund... Yet he also doesn't care to comment on your self promotion for profit. How long do you plan to run from that question you brave little worm?

Wah, Wah Wah

The same old BS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

All who participate here derive some value from doing so; otherwise, they wouldn't bother. Some learn useful information. Some are entertained. Some like sharing what they know or think. Why is posting a commercial website frowned on? How does that damage the site or concern Dave? Most here are staunch conservatives, devoted to private enterprise and for-profit activity. Why is our whiner-in-chief offended? Midway USA is not about to post a billboard here. We're all individuals. Some are even adults. Keith only knows a couple songs. He's sung them here so many times we can all recite the lyrics. Only a couple members like to sing along. I say enough of the endless repetition.

Billy is pretending he doesn't know this, so I'll rrpeat it for him and Stevie again. I am posting a QUOTE by Doublegunshop site Administrator Dave Weber which states his thoughts on the use of this forum by some narcissists to advertise their personal ventures. I have put the specific part pertaining to personal advertisements in BOLD PURPLE PRINT, but have not changed Dave's word's on the subject of personal advertisements one bit.

This QUOTE is from the thread "OPEN LETTER TO DAVE W.", and it was concerning the rules for selling items here.

Read 'em and weep rocky mtn bill:



And here is a link that will explain why apostrophes and quotation marks in Dave's statement showed up with this-- ’ -- instead of an apostrophe, etc. I was going to fix it, but didn't want to get accused of dishonest editing. However, there is no mistaking his feelings on the subject:

https://www.justinweiss.com/articles/how-to-get-from-theyre-to-theyre/

Keith, Is Dave a child? If he objects to a posting, let him delete it. Why not let him fend for himself? Go carry water for Donald Trump. He's going to need it.

Billy, Dave has stated his feelings about selfish and self-centered people who take advantage of him via use of his forum for free advertising and self promotion. Your wormy friend Stevie doubled down and added more advertising to his tagline.

I'll bet you wouldn't consider it so innocuous if another FFL named Dave K started advertising his firearms business here. You are very selective about what you find offensive. But I understand because I find guys who support anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats offensive. Since Stevive shares your derisive view of Trump and the NRA, and even uses data from known anti-gunners like Philip Alpers and his Anti-gun organization Gunpolicy.org it seems he qualifies for a pass from you. But guess what Billy.... I don't give a shit what you think. Now you know.

Dave K can do as he pleases. I have no objection to his promotions. Why should I care? If I'm not interested, I won't look at it. The commercial activity here that you object to has not bothered me or anyone else as far as I can see. I wonder why you have no objection to Bailey Bradshaw's posts. He's in business, right? What difference does it make if he lists no website? He's obviously promoting his wares. I'm fine with that. No one else complains. Let Dave run his site. Everyone here is sick of your meddling and your endless repetition. Try to find something new to say. Or , better yet, shut up and go away.

Bailey Bradshaw has recently posted some interesting photos of a single shot action he has designed and is building. Bailey Bradshaw is not continually promoting his business with advertisements in hundreds of posts. Bailey Bradshaw is not jumping into various threads to offer his gunsmithing or importation services without any compensation to Dave Weber.

Most importantly, Bailey Bradshaw is not doing all of the above, while subcontracting out much of his work so that he can spend endless hours here crying, being a complete idiot, or knocking our pro-gun President Donald Trump and pro-gun Republicans and the NRA. In addition, Bailey Bradshaw is not posting data from known anti-gunners such as Philip Alpers and Gunpolicy.org, or posting links containing their anti-gun propaganda in support of enactment of new gun restrictions. Bailey Bradshaw does not defend the sick actions of gutless worms like the Stevie's fairy studio artist pal Shortshells.

Your friend SKB Stevie does.

You asked why I object, and comment on SKB Stevie's free advertising and self promotion here, and why I say nothing about Bailey Bradshaw. Now you know. And I'm pretty sure that if Bailey Bradshaw started posting his support for Donald Trump and the NRA, you would include him in your endless derisive name-calling, insults, and saying that he is so stupid and blind that he needs the National Enquirer or FOX News to think for him. So why don't you take your own advice and shut up and go away Billy?

And not a bit of credit for sharing your identity with anyone who asks?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA

You are a joke LYING kieth, as usual.

Do notice that you post at about twice the rate I do. Then again I work far more than the 40 hours per week you claim to do.

William kieth[name censored to protect those guilty of hacking]

How is your weather in Pulaski? Beautiful weekend here on the mountain.

garbage in, garbage out in your case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

The posts that have offended you here are full of ideas and information that members find helpful. Your posts are also full, but they are boring, repetitive, and nasty. They have nothing to offer but an unappealing picture of a grumpy old man. Find a hobby. Get a life.

I agree that Bailey Bradshaws posts are informative and interesting.

I do not find SKB Stevie's posts containing highly suspect dat from known anti-gunners like Philip Alpers and his Anti-gun organization at all interesting. I do not find his repeated LIES claiming there is NO GUN REGISTRATION IN NEW ZEALAND one bit interesting or informative. Same goes for Stevie's criticism of our pro-gun President Donald Trump or our NRA.

THE GUTLESS WORM STEVIE. STILL THINKS HE CAN SHUT ME UP WITH HIS THREATS TO CONTINUE HIS COWARDLY INTERNET DOXXING. He is only making things worse for himself. His gay little friend Shortshells isn't the only one who left his barn door open while he was doing his internet snooping and digging for dirt.

Get a life.

To paraphrase Monty Python,
And now for something completely different:
I have been thinking about the recent statements on the news, talking about the government using social media information found on Google, FaceBook, Apple and various forums to determine if people have mental hate issues and should not be allowed to own firearms. Given the reality that this is plausible and technologically possible, I am very cautious about saying anything inflammatory and/or derogatory about people which could be interrupted as hate attacks, which are an indication of questionable mental stability.

"THEY" are watching us....you! Call it "Black helicopterish" if you wish, however just something to think about when you become possessed with hate! And relentless posting of hate as some seem to be doing here or any other place as you hide behind your computer monitor. Everything you write is recorded and accessible for EVER.

I say this as a general thought and have no one in mind. Just saying what I do. But if the shoe fits I suggest you may want to beware.

LRF, good point.

I'm not at all concerned about anything like that LRF.
Of course, I am also not engaging in internet doxxing, exposing personal information in violation of site rules, using the U.S. Postal System to send intimidation mail, or making extremely vulgar and threatening phone calls to members of this site. Stevie, and his spineless friends Steven Dodd Hughes, BrentD, Bob Cash, Shotshells (that's his second anonymous user name) have engaged in some or all of those malicious acts. They were joined by some others who think they were clever by working behind the scenes, and getting stupid dupes like Stevie, BrentD, and Bob to do their dirty work. To paraphrase, they can hide but they can't run. They also did a piss-poor job of covering their tracks.

I know they expected me to run away, instead of standing my ground and rubbing their noses in their shit. And I plan to continue to illuminate their cowardly and mentally sick behavior. I haven't gotten a sincere apology yet. However, Stevie says that I am actually helping to increase his business by doing so... so his Liberal Left Democrat friend rocky mtn bill should be very happy. I just can't understand what they're crying about....

You make a poor victim Billie.

On the other hand, Life ain't fair and the world is mean.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUpH0muyR-I

Keith, I just noticed that Bradshaw has been including a website all along. Why has that not drawn your fire? Could it be because he hasn't disagreed with you on some point earlier? Inquiring minds want to know.

That's easy Billy... same reason that King Brown, nca225, and other Libtard's support for anti-gun Liberal left Democrats has not drawn YOUR fire. Yet you think it is acceptable for you to attack those of us who support our pro-gun President Donald Trump or the NRA.

As Stevie said above, "life ain't fair, and the world is mean". I'm happy to know that the poor little victim Stevie will be able to wax philosophical when those words come back to bite him in the ass.

Also, Bailey Bradshaw's little link is but a tiny fraction of the almost daily blatant advertising and self promotion for profit that Stevie does here. I'd bet that if you wanted to make Bailey Bradshaw aware of Dave Weber's feelings about use of his site for self promotion, he would probably remove it. When Stevie was made aware, he blatantly increased his free advertising .

I find your liberal pal Stevie to be a gutless coward who tries to hide his disdain for Trump and the NRA, and Stevie has even used data from the known anti-gunner Philip Alpers and Gunpolicy.org to support his lie where he said there IS NO GUN REGISTRATION IN NEW ZEALAND. He then claimed that was just a mistake, and that he quickly deleted that post. That was another of his lies, because he continued to repeat the lie that guns were not registered in New Zealand at the time of the Christchurch shooting.

Stevie even stood by like a spineless sheep while Federal Agents illegally removed copies of his FFL bound ledger books from his shop by photographing them.

Bailey Bradshaw has also not engaged in extensive internet digging for dirt on me, lied about me, or done any spineless internet doxxing. The little fairy Stevie has done all of those things. Stevie and his spineless friends thought they could drive me away, but their concerted effort it isn't working very well. Now do you understand Billy?

Wah, Wah, Wah

Lies, Lies and more lies.

Though it is true I am delighted to share your identity with anyone who may ask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

Keith, You can continue to degrade this site with nonsense, but it's interesting that you don't object to one commercial posting because you have no personal beef with that poster while you continue to berate those who've somehow offended you. Be honest for once; you have no objection to commercial promotion; you just have it in for certain individuals. Why would you expect Dave to tolerate that? Get a life.

So what is the lie Stevie? I can provide a link to you making that statement where you claimed that guns were not registered in New Zealand. I can provide a link to show you admitting that you permitted Federal Agents to photograph your FFL Bound Books. You have also admitted to posting that link from the NY Post where you got your biased and highly suspect figures from Philip Alpers and Gunpolicy.org. We can also plainly see that you are blatantly continuing your free advertising campaign. And you admit to a willingness to continue doxxing.

I think we should have a substantial wager that I cannot prove those things, and prove that it is you who is the crybaby liar.

The other LIES did not warrant a response, as for this:






I like to consider it the sharing of information


How is weather in Pulaski Billie?

It has been gorgeous here on the mountain. Seeing nothing but Elk while holding a deer tag but it is still my favorite time of year.

Billy, quite a few people have engaged in incidental self-promotion over the years here. But it is only "special friends" of yours like SKB Stevie and Steven Dodd Hughes who made repeated and blatant use of this site to promote their businesses for profit.

If you object to Bailey Bradshaw's link, why don't you contact him?
Bailey Bradshaw has a grand total of 33 posts with a link here here, while your friend Stevie has 4544 posts with a link, plus additional advertising text. Then there's his many posts where he offers his services within the posts.

I also notice that you failed to tell us about your own habit of playing favorites when it comes to your Libtard pals who support anti-gunners. Inquiring minds want to know why you think that's OK?

And why did you run away after getting busted by eightbore in the "Goin' to the Candidates Debate" thread?



Your proposal to give in to the anti-gunners by treating semi-automatics like Class 3 Full Auto machine guns would immediately stop production of those semi-autos. You ran away from that, didn't you Billy? We see the kind of incremental move toward gun bans that you really support Billy.

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=554851&page=4

Billy, did you see Stevie's reply? Do you see what a spineless coward your friend Stevie is? He can call me a liar, but when challenged to prove it with a little (substantial) wager, he runs like the fairy sissy he is. No wonder you two like each other. You have so much in common.

I read his story in gjw's "Guns and Game Photo's" thread about being surrounded by elk and having a bull bugling all morning. The bull was probably excited by Stevie's estrogen, and thought he was a cow in heat. Maybe that's why Stevie keeps going back... hoping to "hook up" with the bull.

Keith, I have no objection to Bradshaw's posts. I enjoy them. I enjoy them for the same reason I enjoy SKB's and SDH's : they give insight into what it takes to do good work, and they show what good work looks like. Your posts,on the other hand, somehow fail to inspire me. They don't show anything about good work. They are simply BORING.

I note that you once again just danced around my questions Billy. You ask me questions, and I give you point-by-point replies. However, you avoid most of my questions because for you to answer most of them, it would further expose you as a foolish, hypocritical, supporter of the Democrats and their anti-gun agenda.

If you really find my posts boring Billy, then the obvious solution is for you to simply quit reading them.

But I will continue to read your posts, and I will continue to QUOTE you here when you post your support for anti-gunners on the main Double Gun forum and elsewhere. Stevie thinks that it is good to help Liberal Left Democrat anti-gunners like you. I do not. And I will continue to ask why Stevie feels entitled to free advertising of his services, and why Libtards like you support him taking advantage of Dave. Of course, you've done your own share of advertising in this forum instead of using the proper For Sale forum. Libtard Birds of a feather...

When skilled craftsmen post their work here- either to simply illustrate it or to promote its sale, Dave is in no way injured. We all benefit. Those who object aren't obliged to look. Quote me to the moon. I don't mind except that it's BORING. Anyone who cares has read it already. Anyone who's read it already is pissed to see you taking up space with redundant BS.But, that seems to be all you're capable of.

Dave has posted his feelings on the matter of people using his site for self promotion. You don't seem to wish to accept that, and you continue to make excuses for it. Talk about redundant B.S.!

And we have seen that about all you are capable of is denigrating our pro-gun President, the NRA, and those who refuse to support your precious Liberal left anti-gun Socialist Democrats. You still haven't explained to us why it's OK for you to do things like that, and to engage in insults and name calling in the process... yet you think it's wrong for me to confront you or your fairy friend Stevie???

Do you still think semi-auto rifles should be treated the same as Class 3 Full Automatics Billy... or do you plan to steer clear of that, hoping people forget that you said it?

The President is beyond contempt. It's OK for me to say this because 1) it's true and 2) this is still a free country where free speech is its great virtue. You're free too to continue posting the same crap over and over though why you do so is hard to understand. No one here cares to hear you repeat yourself. We aren't stupid. We heard you the first ten times. I hope people don't forget that AR 15s ought to be Class III weapons and that responsible gun owners ought to forego them. Get a life.

Thank you for telling us once again where you stand Billy. My hope is that real gun guys who cherish their 2nd Amendment Rights will remember where you stand when you ask for help or advice, or try to sell things here. People who boycott Dick's Sporting Goods should also know that you are no different than Dick's. In fact, you may be an even bigger Dick than Dick's.

That would sure explain Stevie's attraction to you.

Keith, A current FOX poll says 66% of Americans favor a ban on assault rifles. If you believe in democracy, this has to mean something to you.

I hope people don't forget that your truth is a class 3 truth, so to speak. So, why don't free speech proponents, such as yourself, have to protect this great virtue from loonie talk by folks like you?

Still waiting Bill, and yes, repeating myself like a broken record. Are '98 Mausers weapons of war? Or, are black composite firearm decoration any different from marble grain walnut, hand sculpted furniture or fine rust bluing? Just different shades of lipstick, and our prejudices, eh?

Bill, if you believe in democracy, then you will let Fox News pick your next President.

Billy, you dolt... we do not live in a Democracy. Our framers set up a tripartite Constitutional Republic, to make it more difficult for impressionable Libtard flakes like you to f**k it all up.

Besides, we all know how accurate polls are. Didn't several well regarded polls predict that Trump would lose in a landslide of historic proportions?

And does it mean anything to you Billy, that many of your precious anti-gun Democrats would like to also see a ban on the type of high powered bolt action rifle that is the subject of this thread? I've asked this question several times, but you are obviously afraid to answer it. Your rifle fires high velocity bullets that are capable of penetrating police body armor. Don't you think you should destroy it... if it might save even one life???



By the way, a semi-auto AR-15 is not an assault rifle. It is a semi-automatic rifle that requires a separate pull of the trigger for each shot, just like a double action revolver. Less people are killed by them annually in the U.S. than are killed by blunt objects like hammers.

These last two responses, Craig and Keith, show lots of careful and highly original thought. If either of you should turn against Trump, you'd qualify as a replacement. What I worry about in the 2020 election is the observation put forth by the con man in Huckleberry Finn:" Hain't we got the fools on our side, and ain't they a majority in any town?" PS: Are 98 Mauser's weapons of war? Well, no they aren't, any more than flintlock muskets are. If you fail to see the difference, then there's no point in trying to explain it. You may still have a majority on your side.

But Billy, craigd wasn't calling the Mauser 98 a weapon of war. He was asking you a question, because many of your beloved Liberal Left Democrats consider them to be a weapon of war. Certainly, they were once weapons of war, and they can still launch a high velocity projectile that is capable of penetrating police body armor.

That's what I also pointed out to you, plus the FACT that these same anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats wish to ban them for those same reasons. moses recently made a post about a mass shooter in Australia who used... wait for it... a sawed off shotgun. Any weapon can be turned against people... even a hammer or a golf club. Google up mass homicides in Australia, and see how many of them involve arson... burning victims alive. Your willingness to give entire classes of firearms to the anti-gunners shows us the extremely shallow depth of your thought processes. You think that your bolt action rifles and your shotguns will be safe, but the anti-gunners you support keep slipping up, as Beto O'Rourke did, and letting out their long term goals.

And you are stupid enough to ignore those things, and cling to the little sound-bites where they lie and claim to support the 2nd Amendment. Pretty easy to see who the con men are when it comes to gun rights, and you follow them like a drooling hydrocephalic sheep.

You and Craig are not capable of understanding the main point here: assault type rifles with high capacity magazines enable shooters to kill people too efficiently. Any fire arm will kill, but too many mass murderers prefer the ones that let them maximize their destruction. Furthermore, these are the weapons that movies and video games have promoted as being particularly effective. The non-gun public knows this and hates these weapons with a passion. Gun owners can't afford any longer to defend these weapons; they are not defensible. I fully understand how popular they are and how many responsible users have them. We've reached the point where that no longer makes any difference.

That's ridiculous Billy. So you are telling us that just because the Liberal Left Democrats have had some success in demonizing an inanimate object, we should incrementally give up our Constitutional Rights to appease them?

I have repeatedly posted links and information about many other mass homicide attacks that did not involve AR-15's or any other firearm. The use of box cutters helped Islamic terrorists kill around 3000 innocent people on 9/11/2001. The school bombing by a disgruntled janitor in Bath Township Michigan in 1927 which killed 44 people remains the worst school massacre in U.S. history. Then there's the 1990 Happyland Dance Club arson in NYC that killed 87 people. The murder weapon was much more cost effective and efficient than any AR-15 Billy. It was less than $1.00 of gasoline and a match.

Did you happen to Google mass murders in Australia to see how many were arson fires? New gun laws and confiscations there have not stopped these mass killings. Have you forgotten the recent fad of running big trucks into large crowds of people? The truck attack in 2016 in Nice, France took 87 lives. No Universal background Check would have stopped it. All the killer had to do was rent or steal a large truck.

What is not defensible Billy, is having idiots like you who are so willing to blind yourself to these facts, and are equally willing to give up our rights and freedoms. We've reached a point where intelligent gun owners need to realize that guys like you are working to help anti-gunners steal our rights and freedoms.

And not once have you ever suggested regulating or banning the anti-depressant drugs that seem to drive many of these mass murderers to have the desire to kill themselves and as many others as they can. Your only solution is to give up someone else's gun.

Earlier, I posted a picture and statement about the mass shooter Charles Whitman. He killed 14 and wounded 32 people at the University of Texas. He used a bolt action rifle very similar to your Mauser. Anti-gun Democrats also hate these "sniper rifles" and "weapons of war" like your Mauser. So when are you going to destroy it or surrender it to them to appease them?

Inquiring minds want to know. So how will you squirm away from these questions Billy? What excuses will you concoct to keep your Mauser, and give up the semi-autos owned by millions of equally law abiding U.S. citizens?

I have no defense for anti-depressant drugs. I f they are a factor in the problem, I condemn them as much as I do assault rifles with one notation: the killer acting under their influence still needs an efficient weapon to kill lots on people.

No surprise to see that you again managed to run away from most of the valid points I made about arson fires, bombs, trucks, and a myriad of other ways that a mentally ill killer can efficiently kill and injure large numbers of people.

There are two old unsolved mass murders less than 20 miles from me. One used a knife to kill several children and a mother. The other used a hammer to kill 5 children and a mother, and left another child permanently brain damaged. A bartender at a nearby tavern was beaten to death on the same night and police felt it was the same killer. No noise, no bullets, no silly background checks... just dead victims and killers still running free.

As I said, less than $1.00 of gasoline and a match was certainly effective enough to kill 87 people in NYC, and a lot more efficient than buying a $600.00 rifle and ammo at over half a buck a pop. Of course it cost quite a bit more to buy and feed an AR-15 when Obama was threatening to ban them.

How much do you think it would cost for a killer to stab a trucker at a truck stop, and steal his semi-truck to run into a large crowd?

And the biggest surprise of all... no comment from you about giving up your Mauser "sniper rifle" and "weapon of war" which can shoot right through police body armor. Why don't you wish to talk about giving that up to appease all of the anti-gunners who hate it and are afraid of it?

Bill, you sound like you would condemn a ham sandwich if you felt like it was related to a plastic straw. Here's a quick tip, the chicken little strategy doesn't work. Well, it works among you and your buddies, but ain't that an exercise in frustration. Too funny, I'm guessing you want to get out and shoot an elk with your weapon of war, chambered for a high intensity primer flattening military round. Do you think you will get a clean kill, or just maim?

Craig, Stupid, pointless rambling. Get an idea; then try to express it. Otherwise, you sound worse than usual. Are you a native English speaker, or perhaps an illegal immigrant posing as an American?

Hang on Bill, I'll get back to you in a bit, I'm watching Fox News now.

Craig, Good idea. You'll confirm all your favorite prejudices.Go out to dinner at McDonald's. It will be awful, but exactly what you expect. Otherwise, get a life.

Ignorance has a cure, stupid is forever....

Maybe I just had better history teachers.
If they are still alive, I could put you in touch with them.

Awe, Bill is okay. All he�s saying is that all the baggage he votes for doesn�t apply to him. Or, at least that�s what he feels like will happen.

JRAnderson, I had my laugh for the day when I read your post. +1

Hey craigd, maybe Billy should read the article I just posted a link to concerning anti-gun Democrat Joe Biden's extensive gun control plan which he released yesterday. Here's a link to my thread:

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=556447#Post556447

This is exactly the kind of stuff that Billy said would never happen if we were all dumb enough to vote for anti-gun Democrats, like he does. But it is interesting to see that one of his proposals was the same as one that Billy wants very badly... having semi-auto rifles regulated as NFA Class 3 Firearms. That would ban all new production, and cause a tax to be imposed upon owners of existing guns... until they do the confiscation or "Buy-Back."