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["George, what makes you think it's a Featherweight?"]

Just because I could not read what the barrel inscription said. I have one that is very similar and it clearly says featherweight. I agree with battle that if it were a featherweight it would say so...Geo

Miller,
Your drilling is not from Suhl, rather it was made in or around Zella-Mehlis. Suhl didn't start dating the proofs until 1923 and didn't show the ledger numbers like Z-M did. You are correct about the nominal caliber of the rifle, but it was also sometimes called 8x58 1/2 R S&S.
The 59 just means it will accept a 59mm long case, by actual measurement. A nominal caliber designation doesn't always match actual measurements. Your drilling's markings are correct.
Mike

Lindner 20ga ejector. In the condition it�s in what would be a fair offer?

If it has the crossed pistols trademark, my guess would be $1,500 to two grand...Geo

For whatever my opinion is worth?

Thanks for the info Der Ami. I knew it was not a Suhl gun, it was just that all the info I had come up with had indicated that German proof was not supposed to have a date mark prior to 1912.
Thus it appears that only applies if it was proofed at Suhl. Yes I had seen reference to this caliber being listed as 8x58 1/2 R S&S.

Also Ihav read that prior to 912 smokeless powder proof required the same increase in powder as was used for black. Thus if the proof load was a double charge of black, if the gun was proofed for Schultz they also had to double the charge. Tis would put a tremendous load on the gun, so it was stated that most shotgun makers did not submit their shotguns to smokeless proof until it became andatory in 1912 & the rules were also changed then to a mre reasonable level.

Do you know if these same rules applied at Zella Mehlis?
I have a 12 gauge sidelock built by Sauer & Son for VL&D & marked as their Knock-About. Its SN dates it to around 1901-02. Even though it is around a 7 1/2 pound gun & marked for 70 mm chambers it does not carry smokeless proof.

Thanks for any infoyou can provide. Even at 81 I'm not too old to learn.

If this is truly a 20ga I would guess that the pricing suggested is way off. I'll buy any decent 20ga Daly for $1500 - really?

Not sure what had happen to the forearm tip. Maybe fell out and glued back in? Anyway he says that's the worst part of the gun. I know if I purchase the gun the barrels will need re-bluing. Not sure about the wood finish.

Well Doug, it is not in great shape and it is not one of the higher grades, and it does not seem to be a Lindner. I have one very similar to it in 12 gauge that is a Lindner and I paid $1,200 for it. But I could be wrong...Geo

I was under the impression it is Lindner...

It may be but its not just because it's a Prussian Daly. The question in my mind is whether it has the Lindner trademark. I did not see the crossed pistols on the barrels in your pictures...Geo