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Well done Greg. Once again we're smarter together than alone.

I read BSA NY above and Millbrook below, over-stamped the Miroku marks = the U.S. importer.

What we don't know is the original European importer/dealer, and why the gun was not marked Miroku. And the marks on the barrels.

Browning.

Bob: the Belgian proof certificate under "Marque" lists Browning. "Marque" is "the make" or maker's mark so I believe you are correct that Browning imported the gun to Europe.
If Browning marketed and sold the gun however, why is there no Browning name on the gun? Why would Browning gift the gun to Browning dealers without the Browning name? Could it have been imported by Browning for a dealer as a tradename gun, and never marked as such ie. Fusils de Chasse de Joseph? Interesting.

Does the stupid deer head cartoon on the trigger guard count?

That is, after all, a registered trademark.

It has always looked out of place on a shotgun.

My latest has that stamped into the wood.

Needless to say, I don't display the logo on the rear window of my truck as is so popular here.

The deer head wouldn�t bother me on a Citori. Not at all. But, I sure don�t want to see it on a BSL or a Superposed.

Someday I�ll tell all you guys the story of the weird mark I saw on a Red Label.

Best,
Ted

I was never that fond of JMB's bald dome either.

The FN butt plate, however, I do like.

I'm sure if this gun was made for a 'volume dealer' the trademark would look just fine.... it's the mark of money.

Even with it, there's no doubt this is a very nice gun.

I especially like the part about no porting. That's why I bought the CXS.

3" 20 gauge, 32" non ported barrels.
6lb 14 oz
14 7/16 LOP to a cut butt and an "Old English" pad.
The barrels and gun weight alone buy a lot of wood and pad forgiveness.

Indeed Bob.

I managed to find an unported 30" 20 gauge Citori XS about 15 years ago.

Seven pounds exactly, with very nice wood for what those guns sold for.

It remains the best handling shotgun I've ever used, bar none. All it needs is better triggers.

It is my understanding that the Miroku O/Us built for the Euro market are not ported. The only thing that kept me from buying a Browning 20 ga Feather XS Sporting when they were available was that they only came ported. That's a non-starter for me.

It took them a long time, but they seem to have gotten the message about the ports.

I expect that to become optional again catalog wide.

They're stupid if they don't.