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That was a profoundly moving experience this morning. It was deeply religious is a way we are too often now missing in the West and utterly in the best of the western civilization experience. I think King Charles and Queen Camilla are going to surprise a lot of people.

I am not a royalist, nor do I much like Aristocracy (or its democratic dark side - Oligarchy), but King Charles has consistently shown values I admire. IMHO that ceremony was badly needed over here to remind us where our institutions, ideas, language, religion and humanity come from.

Thanks again,

Gene Williams


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I'm not so sure I'm as enthusiastic about Charles the person. But I certainly support the institution and am glad it's part of my culture, my history and my form of government. I'm 64 and it's the only coronation that has happened in my lifetime. We got spoiled with Elizabeth.


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Originally Posted by canvasback
I'm not so sure I'm as enthusiastic about Charles the person.

Good Lord, you said a mouthful right there.


Later this month, I’ll go to the grave of my mother and father at the Fort Snelling National Cemetery, and put flowers on their graves and pick up whatever is left from previous trips. Dad was an orphan, and the perfect candidate for the 30 year career he served in the Marine Corps. Eileen Mary Catherine Nolan, my mother, was Irish. She could trace her family back to about the mid 1300s, and if she had ever learned to use a computer, could have likely gone further. I told her as much. But, she thought doing so would add very little positive to the very negative family history she already knew.

Her opinion today would be vastly different, on almost every, single, point than Gene’s. I have simply let most of what she told me go, she knew the date her last living relative was killed in Northern Ireland, but, to a much younger me, it was far away, and I was glad for only that.

To the Englishmen who read here, I’m glad the ceremony was beautiful, and peaceful. No disrespect intended, but, I missed it.


Carry on.

Best,
Ted

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Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by canvasback
I'm not so sure I'm as enthusiastic about Charles the person.

Good Lord, you said a mouthful right there.


Later this month, I’ll go to the grave of my mother and father at the Fort Snelling National Cemetery, and put flowers on their graves and pick up whatever is left from previous trips. Dad was an orphan, and the perfect candidate for the 30 year career he served in the Marine Corps. Eileen Mary Catherine Nolan, my mother, was Irish. She could trace her family back to about the mid 1300s, and if she had ever learned to use a computer, could have likely gone further. I told her as much. But, she thought doing so would add very little positive to the very negative family history she already knew.

Her opinion today would be vastly different, on almost every, single, point than Gene’s. I have simply let most of what she told me go, she knew the date her last living relative was killed in Northern Ireland, but, to a much younger me, it was far away, and I was glad for only that.

To the Englishmen who read here, I’m glad the ceremony was beautiful, and peaceful. No disrespect intended, but, I missed it.


Carry on.

Best,
Ted


LOL, I was being diplomatic.

Hard to argue with history, Ted. There are and were winners and losers. The Irish clearly have been long term losers in their fight with England. I'm primarily Scottish and one can say the same thing about the Scots. But it's also true across the Globe, between all sorts of peoples. One defining feature I have noticed is how long do the losers continue the grudge. I note with some amusement here with certain members regularly denigrating the Brits, particularly the monarchy, as though the US hasn't created it's own elites. I mean what was The 400 of the Guilded Age but an aristocracy. You'd almost think the Americans lost the Revolutionary War. Oh well......what's that so appropriate comment from Shakespeare...."The lady dost protest too much"?

What is undeniable is the 1000 years advancement of our civilization that was led by the English and pushed to new heights by the Americans. And that little show yesterday is as much a part of projecting the power of that civilization as a big US aircraft carrier looming in the distance. Besides, give a bit of a poke and its obvious the Irish and Scots figure pretty highly in accomplishment within that context.

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