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Originally Posted by rocky mtn bill
Tim, No one has denied parents' right to decide what THEIR children can read. If you believe that teachers and schools have corrupted children, you must have been reading about Catholic schools. The idea that the gay, lesbian, ect. crowd is grooming children is just plain silly. They have their own issues to deal with. There are preditors out there, but they aren't using books to promote their aims.



Wrong Bill, look up images from the books "Gender Queer" and "This book is gay". This is what your fellow "education professionals" are putting in school libraries against the wishes of parents. If parents can't prevent this crap from being available to their children in schools, then their rights are being denied. And yes, this is in union represented public schools.

The idea that the alphabet society is grooming children isn't silly, it's just happening slowly. This constant need from leftist perverts to perform sexually in front of children, the weakening of laws regarding pedophilia and talk of lowering the age of consent, the renaming of pedophiles as "minor attracted persons", just one step at a time. Try googling up Joseph Bruno Francis Parker school project veritas, there's video of him bragging about giving school children sex toys, great teacher. Just because your union newsletter won't talk about this doesn't mean it isn't happening.

As for that crack about the Catholic Church, that's on your side of the political aisle. If the church hadn't been infiltrated and infested with leftist homosexuals, most of that wouldn't have happened. That's right, it was mostly all predatory homosexuals, not pedophiles. The vast majority of victims were male, and the vast majority of them were old enough to be pedophiles, these "priests" weren't pedophiles, just predatory homosexuals with an interest in younger partners.

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Can you say indoctrination,

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This Thread has it all... Politics, Insults, Name Calling, advancement of Communist and Socialist Dogma... everything except Double Gun content. I've stayed out of it to see where it goes, just to see if all of the usual whiners and crybabies who complain to Dave Weber about 2nd Amendment Threads and off-topic "bad manners" would complain. Over two weeks has passed, and we hear crickets.

Originally Posted by rocky mtn bill
mc, who is it that's banning books? And here's Craigd with one of his utterly incomprehensible responses....

Originally Posted by rocky mtn bill
craigd, People who fear books are largely people who don't read. They just somehow know that books convey irresistible temptations to the unsuspecting. They don't read 1} because they don't like to, 2) because they want to guard themselves against hearing something that could threaten their mind set. Stupid people fear books because they resent smart people who know things they don't. Stalin and Hitler tried to defend themselves by banning books. They're the model for book-banners today.

And there's Billy falsely suggesting that it is Conservatives and MAGA Republicans who are banning books. This is the same guy who repeatedly used this Forum to advance the false Democrat narrative about Trump colluding with Putin. But censorship and student's access to certain books has happened for decades, usually due to offensive or sexually explicit content.

https://www.rd.com/list/books-banned-the-decade-you-were-born/

Public School Boards have always regulated the content of the curriculum, and determined what is taught, and what books are purchased for classrooms and libraries. As a retired English Teacher, Billy knows this, but is once again parroting Democrat propaganda, and supporting the perverted sexualization and grooming of children by pedophiles, Transgenger sicko's, and the entire LGBTQIA++ crowd.

Not so many years ago, we were asked by the sick Liberal Left to merely accept the queer lifestyle, but now this and other mentally sick behaviors are being crammed down our children's throats in order to normalize perverted behavior. At G-A-Y Pride Parades this month, these sick bastards are chanting and bragging, "We're coming for your children." Children are being chemically castrated and counseled by sick Liberals without parental consent or knowledge. Billy is once again telling lies when he says this is only happening in Catholic Schools, while parents who dare to complain are labeled as Domestic Terrorists by the Democrat controlled DOJ and FBI when they speak up at Public School Board meetings.

Originally Posted by rocky mtn bill
Tim, No one has denied parents' right to decide what THEIR children can read. If you believe that teachers and schools have corrupted children, you must have been reading about Catholic schools. The idea that the gay, lesbian, ect. crowd is grooming children is just plain silly. They have their own issues to deal with. There are preditors out there, but they aren't using books to promote their aims.

A couple weeks ago, new data came out showing that reading and math scores among 13 year olds are at the lowest point in decades, and these sick Democrats are complaining when Conservatives simply want kids to be taught normal and useful things instead of being groomed by agenda driven pedophiles with books like Gender Queer, etc. We spend more on public school education per pupil than any nation on earth, and once again, our retired English Teacher shows us he still cannot spell a simple word like "predators". And he also cannot tell the truth about what his anti-gun Liberal Democrats are doing to destroy this nation.

https://apnews.com/article/math-reading-test-scores-pandemic-school-032eafd7d087227f42808052fe447d76

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I have always taken an interest in modern history though there is one exception , it is just I wanted to look inside the people who where outstanding in their way good or bad. So I have found these books made me look at things and happenings from another perspective.

Seven Pillars of wisdom by T E Laurence. I now believe recommended reading in Military Academies across the world. Such insight i to the way a terrorist mind will work.
Long walk to Freedom Nelson Mandela. Full of insight into the way South Africa was during the Apart ide system. Full of things I did not know sadly.
An American Life Ronald Reagan. "Nancy I forgot to duck" those words intrigued me so I read the book
Iliad Homer. 800 BCE Just a good read and shows that things have not changed for the human condition especially War.
My final book is very controversial. Strangely enough I could only find an English version in Germany. Though things have changed now.
Mien Kamph A Hitler. It is a very long look into the mind of a man who changed the world we once had to the one we have today.
Just food for thought, banning of books is only a stones throw away from "where they burn books in the end they will also burn human beings" Heinrich Helm.
Things have not changed much for a lot of people across the globe in all that time from Homer to today.

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This country has not been the same since September 11, 2001. Much of our problems and division started with Obama. A number of us saw him for what he was and tried to warn voters. In many ways, the current idiot is just a prop for Obama and his team.

In 2016 my thought was "This is the best we can do?" - Clinton vs Trump.

In 2020 my thought again was "This is the best we can do?" - Trump vs Biden

In 2024 I suspect my thought will be again "This is the best we can do?" - Biden vs Trump II.

Until we come up with new, young leadership that believes in our founding, history, heritage, and role within the rest of the world, it will never get better.

We also have to stop allowing the 10% fringe to control the rest of us. Sadly, the Communist, Marxist, Socialists, whatever you want to call them have wormed their way into all aspects of our life. Much of what we are seeing is right out of their playbook. And again, it started with Obama.

A good example is how they are using the "Pride" phenomenon to further their agenda. Now to be clear, I don't care what people do in their private lives. However, don't force me to accept it because it is not. And don't teach it to minor children in school that it is normal because it is not. Parents raise their children with the most say, and teachers should stick to writing, reading, history, math, and science. But again, the left has successfully taken over our school systems, and school boards.

We have seemingly overnight gone from awareness, to tolerance, to acceptance, forced acceptance, and now forced acceptance - or else. That is fundamentally wrong in our country.

"Fundamentally transform the United States of America" - Ring a bell?

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The conservative " mind" is a strange thing. It sees danger threatening from all directions, coming from people who aren't recognizably from the same tribe. The core belief seems to be that all would be well if only everyone was just like me. To have whole sets of enemies is a comfort that takes away the difficult job of actually confronting tough issues. It's called scapegoating, one of the world's oldest con games. "IT all started with Obama" ??? Imagine that. Up 'til then, everything was perfect. But it took just one bad apple to spoil it all. If liberals were somehow behind all Americas' problems, then conservative might as well give up and slash their wrists because they're way too far outgunned. Look, there are real threats out there. Some of them can be dealt with conservatively. Some are better approached from the other direction. Anyone who believes that all our woes are the fault of the other party is simply gullible. There are battles to fight, but they won't be won by stupidity. Yeah, we ought to have better candidates, but often the choice isn't between a good one and a bad one. There is a meaningful difference between a not-so- good one and one who's even worse.


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