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Keep a low profile, stay off the beaten track, never put anything in writing you don't want used against you, be careful what you say on the cell phone, talk in public like an NFL coach with a playbook in front of your mouth, lay out your defensive perimeter, heed Sun Tzu, and make sure you have the appropriate tools to get the job done. These are prudent life rules to follow anytime, not just now. Wolverines. You mean NOT like Donald Trump when he got recorded saying he loved to grab women by the P--------. Or he couldn't quote a single verse from the Bible. Ok. Gottcha!!
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.....none of that negates my point. Which is that to combat that shit you need long term activism. Not simply a different political or leader for the next 4 year cycle.
You can complain or make excuses as to why one can’t or it’s too hard or they are too well entrenched. But what I am saying is the way you start to take back society. You think you have it tough now? Imagine being a gay trans guy in the 1960s in the Deep South. You don’t think the entire forces of government and culture were arrayed against him?.... Your point is too idealistic, and is not grounded in today's reality. But, and this is hugely important, does any of your long term activism theory negate other's points? I think it's time for you to show, when has law enforcement, administrative branch of government in the form of prosecutors, or judicial branch activism, ever gone after, harmed, left wing social agenda activism? I think it's wrong for you to frame right wing activism in terms of laziness to resist, time, money and energy inconveniences. Wisconsin comes to mind when state republican party members, activists if you will, faced leo forcible home searches and seizures of property. The half billion ruling against Trump with no victim, or the Georgia election shenanigans against Trump. Well, you know there are many examples. That’s easy Craig. Think law enforcement in the Deep South in the 1960s. Those guys were not on board with what the liberals from Washington and the judiciary were trying to force on them. Or how about the union busting that went on for the first half of the last century. James, The Deep South was blue. Jim Crow laws, the enforcement of same, and the KKK were all facets of the democrat party. I hope James Flynn sees this, I had a nice conversation with him just recently about this. He literally had trouble registering as a republican. He has always lived in the south. Best, Ted
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Keep a low profile, stay off the beaten track, never put anything in writing you don't want used against you, be careful what you say on the cell phone, talk in public like an NFL coach with a playbook in front of your mouth, lay out your defensive perimeter, heed Sun Tzu, and make sure you have the appropriate tools to get the job done. These are prudent life rules to follow anytime, not just now. Wolverines. You mean NOT like Donald Trump when he got recorded saying he loved to grab women by the P--------. Or he couldn't quote a single verse from the Bible. Ok. Gottcha!! Do you think it was heard in all 57 states? Asking for a friend. Best, Ted
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.....none of that negates my point. Which is that to combat that shit you need long term activism. Not simply a different political or leader for the next 4 year cycle.
You can complain or make excuses as to why one can’t or it’s too hard or they are too well entrenched. But what I am saying is the way you start to take back society. You think you have it tough now? Imagine being a gay trans guy in the 1960s in the Deep South. You don’t think the entire forces of government and culture were arrayed against him?.... Your point is too idealistic, and is not grounded in today's reality. But, and this is hugely important, does any of your long term activism theory negate other's points? I think it's time for you to show, when has law enforcement, administrative branch of government in the form of prosecutors, or judicial branch activism, ever gone after, harmed, left wing social agenda activism? I think it's wrong for you to frame right wing activism in terms of laziness to resist, time, money and energy inconveniences. Wisconsin comes to mind when state republican party members, activists if you will, faced leo forcible home searches and seizures of property. The half billion ruling against Trump with no victim, or the Georgia election shenanigans against Trump. Well, you know there are many examples. That’s easy Craig. Think law enforcement in the Deep South in the 1960s. Those guys were not on board with what the liberals from Washington and the judiciary were trying to force on them. Or how about the union busting that went on for the first half of the last century. James, The Deep South was blue. Jim Crow laws, the enforcement of same, and the KKK were all facets of the democrat party. I hope James Flynn sees this, I had a nice conversation with him just recently about this. He literally had trouble registering as a republican. He has always lived in the south. Best, Ted Ted, I'm also well aware of that. Craig asked for examples where activists had been actively suppressed by the state. And at that time there was a clear delineation between Washington Liberals and Southern Democrats. Once more, you guys mix up party politics with social and cultural activism. Exactly what I am trying to bring to your attention. The party politics of the Deep South evolved when the Dems figured out how to use the black populace and the evolving social climate to their advantage. I'll never believe George Wallace had a change of heart. He simply figured out a more effective approach in a new world. That's what good politicians do. The culture changed......then the politicians change to take advantage.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Poor Jimmy has trump derangement syndrome. jimmy tell us about "sniffer ,groper ,fondling JOE"
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If we don't get more involved use social media get a cohesive message we will all suffer the failure.
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If we don't get more involved use social media get a cohesive message we will all suffer the failure. Hopefully the Supreme Court will rule correctly on Monday. And one thing you guys may want to take a second look at is the USSC ruling that unleashed the SuperPACS. Calling limits on election spending "free speech" is insane and has contributed mightily to the chaotic, billionaire dominated, two out of four years spent raising money, election system. I'll let you in on a little secret. Conservatives contribute to the parties and candidates of their choice. Liberals don't. Liberals depend on deep pocketed donors. The more election spending limits in place, the more the Right has an inherent advantage over the Left. We cut out corporate donations, union donations, personal donations over $2000. The parties up here are funded by average taxpayers. And the Right typically raises 3x to 4x the money the Left does. It was one of the last things the previous centre right government did before it left office and our current Blackface wearing Turd took over. It was a brilliant tactical move by the right.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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If we don't get more involved use social media get a cohesive message we will all suffer the failure. Hopefully the Supreme Court will rule correctly on Monday. And one thing you guys may want to take a second look at is the USSC ruling that unleashed the SuperPACS. Calling limits on election spending "free speech" is insane and has contributed mightily to the chaotic, billionaire dominated, two out of four years spent raising money, election system. I'll let you in on a little secret. Conservatives contribute to the parties and candidates of their choice. Liberals don't. Liberals depend on deep pocketed donors. The more election spending limits in place, the more the Right has an inherent advantage over the Left. We cut out corporate donations, union donations, personal donations over $2000. The parties up here are funded by average taxpayers. And the Right typically raises 3x to 4x the money the Left does. It was one of the last things the previous centre right government did before it left office and our current Blackface wearing Turd took over. It was a brilliant tactical move by the right. The shit you make up is astounding.
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....Craig asked for examples where activists had been actively suppressed by the state. And at that time there was a clear delineation between Washington Liberals and Southern Democrats.
Once more, you guys mix up party politics with social and cultural activism. Exactly what I am trying to bring to your attention.... Let's try it this way? Just because it's repeated, doesn't make it truth? I can see and understand your examples, but I was hoping for examples that reflect the realities of today. I hope you can also see that the examples you came up with do not support what you are trying to bring to attention. I don't mind, it came across to me as a tit for tat response, and didn't really move the needle towards you theory. I saw politics and activism are necessarily intertwined, you say they are distinct and one requires the other in sequence. But, the examples and discussions you have are highly political? Today, there are extremely high delineations between traditional democrats and progressives, but they always vote en masse. Emphasis on today. President Trump was an activist on social media, which won him an election, but also got him banned from the platform with retaliatory prosecutions and intimidation of most of his advisors, as well as himself.
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.....The shit you make up is astounding. What, you don't like blackface hypocrisy stories?
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