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I found a F Dumoulin & Cie Liege 20 gauge yesterday at a local shop. It sports 30” barrels with great bores. This hammer gun seems to have been well cared for and comes in a A&F leather case.
It is tight on face and locks up tight. Wood is in excellent condition. It has pretty plain simple scroll engraving.
I am unfamiliar with the maker and am wondering about what others thoughts are on this maker.
I plan to take another look at it this morning and will take pictures.

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Dumoulin , like many. Belgian makers, could make guns from the highest quality, to a lower price point. I have a steel barreled hammer Dumoulin with deep chiseled engraving and gold names. It is a rather high quality gun. I don’t know what the A and F case is like. It could be worth a few hundred in itself. Being a 20 gauge hammer gun is a step up in value.

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They made good, serviceable guns.
Plenty of them around.


Out there doing it best I can.
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The pics we need are full size high resolution of the action, any marks on the rib, the action flats, and the barrel flats and just forward of the flats
https://www.shotgunworld.com/threads/belgian-shotgun-identification-guide.232252/

If we can establish the DOM there are lots of A&F catalog repros available from Cornell Pubs
https://cornellpubs.com/shop/

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A few pictures

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The lettre annale is a 'g' for 1928
Cornell Pubs has an A&F 1929 catalog but it may not have been an A&F gun. The ones I've seen had the chamber length indicated in inches.
This one has FOR ABERCROMBIE & FITCH CO. on the R barrel
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/48/1616/cased-dumoulin-box-lock-model-double-barrel-shotgun
https://cornellpubs.com/product/874/

The tubes are fluid steel by Laurent Lochet-Habran and are Smokeless Powder proved, which was mandatory after 1924
Chambers 65 mm = 2 1/2"
At the time of proof the barrels weighed 1.369 Kg = or 3.02 #. If > 3% less now (from honing) they would be considered out of proof
The bore of 15.9 mm = .626" is odd; 20g was usually 15.6 mm = .615". The 9 may have actually been stamped upside down.
Muzzle dimensions were not marked after 1924

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Thank you for the information Doc. Im Looking forward to shooting it on some dairy birds soon. The case with the reloading items, the leather box, and cleaning rod was a real plus.
Chokes are open, and the bores measure very close to .626 and the chambers are 2 1/2”.
I will need to weight the barrels.

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Dairy birds…we call ‘em barn ducks.

Good looking gun.

Best,
Ted

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You done good. Nice long barreled hammergun.

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