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Meriden hammer gun # 28167 http://www.gunsamerica.com/976970503/Gun...xS_Shot_Gun.htmFrom the PictureTrail album: Meriden 52 hammerless #62308 Meriden 18 steel brl hammerless #71720 AJ Aubrey hammerless twist #13895 Berkshire hammerless twist #18335
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Patents filed by Albert J. Aubrey: Improved Safety for breakdown guns Location: Hopkinton, MA Patent number: 859477 Filing date: Dec 8, 1904 Issue date: Jul 9, 1907 http://www.google.com/patents?id=mJxCAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=Aubrey+gunSight For Firearms Location: Meriden Patent number: 839535 Filing date: Mar 22, 1906 Issue date: Dec 25, 1906 http://www.google.com/patents?id=E2lJAAAAEBAJ&dq=Albert+Aubrey&jtp=1#PPA35,M1Sight for Firearms Location: Meriden Assignor Sears Roebuck & Co Patent number: 835091 Filing date: May 5, 1906 Issue date: Nov 6, 1906 http://www.google.com/patents?id=si9BAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=Albert+AubreyAutomatic Shell-Ejector for Firearms Location: Meriden Patent number: 887569 Filing date: Jan 14, 1907 Issue date: May 12, 1908 http://www.google.com/patents?id=qDRJAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=Albert+AubreyFore-Stock Fastener for Firearms Location: Meriden Patent number: 887568 Filing date: Jan 14, 1907 Issue date: May 12, 1908 http://www.google.com/patents?id=pzRJAAA...+Aubrey#PPP2,M1Gun-Lock Location: Meriden Patent number: 902639 Filing date: Jan 23, 1908 Issue date: Nov 3, 1908 http://www.google.com/patents?id=j3QPAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=Aubrey+gunSafety Hammer Location: Meriden Patent number: 911362 Issue date: Feb 1909 http://www.google.com/patents?id=6HIPAAA...+Aubrey#PPP2,M1Rifle-Barrel Construction Location: Meriden Patent number: 918491 Filing date: Jan 8, 1909 Issue date: Apr 20, 1909 http://www.google.com/patents?id=C2p-AAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&dq=Albert+AubreyPete
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Pete-
Thank you very much for that information. Amazing to think that my humble Meriden hammer gun was "state of the art" in 1908, with two patented inventions incorporated into its design!
Actually it is very interesting that while the hammer gun was on the way out in 1908, Aubrey was still working to perfect it. Well his inventions, both the hammer gun lock and the fore-stock fastener worked and they work well to this date, nearly 100 years later.
Researcher (if I recall correctly) pointed out many months ago that the patent date appearing on the rib of the Meriden hammer gun is actually the date of the improved safety (which obviously was incorporated not in the hammer gun, but in the side locks as the hammer gun had no such safety).
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I found some engravers.
William Gough, age 25, shows up in the 1900 census, married with 4 children.
The 1904 Meriden City directory shows John and William Gough as a contractors for Parker Bros. It has a strange reference "See Goffe" which refers to one Lucius Goffe. This makes no sense to me because in 1900 he was 63 years old and listed as a Grocer Merchant.
In the 1910 Census records. John Gough, age 36, immigrated 1886 from England, not a US citizen. George Masters, age 24, immigrated 1909 from England. Both were boarders at 85 Colony St, Meriden.
In 1910 John Gough did not have his wife Agnes with him. She was residing with him in 1900, 1920 and 1930. In 1900 besides his wife, there was his brother Harold, then 9 years old. Harold later married and raised 2 children while working as a machinist in Philedelphia. There is no record that Harold or his older brother John ever became US Citizens.
John Gough remained an engraver working in Meriden. He never owned a home nor had any children. George Masters may have returned to England, as I can not find any further trace of him.
So, as contractors were John and William also working for A.J. Aubrey?
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I have found this reference to an A. Gough as a Parker engraver. So this may have been a family of engravers.
"The receiver and all of the metal attached to the receiver are elaborately engraved by "A. Gough". It is signed under the front of the trigger guard, "A Gough Designer & Engraver"."
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PeteM, You research hound dog! I wish I had your enthusiasm. I keep getting bogged down with anomalies that I can't explain. This thread is the perfect example.
Did you notice the the patent dates listed by Sven and Daryl don't match the patent record...like July 9 1907, and July 19, 1907...in the double threads 7/9/07 is a single trigger mechanism issued to C F Sawtell of Manchester N H (859,845)...and I don't have any double shotgun patents issued on 7/19/07 ...
I suspect that the USPTO has lost some patents over the century or the engraver just didn't care what date he cut, because it's doubtful that these guys both need new glasses...
My guess is that the patent is still dormant (not listed in any classification) waiting to be called up...I'll explain...years back I would check my files against the USPTO online classification threads only to find that numbers that I had gleaned from patent gazettes at the library, weren't anywhere to be found in the classification threads...so in order to obtain a large printable version of these flyers, I would simply do a number search on the Full-Text and Image Database...most times I would get the patent, including the classification page, then within about 3 days later, the number would appear in one or more classification threads...
I assume this is the case with the July 9 and/or July 19 patents
Unless you have a different take on it? Is there something obvious that I'm not seeing?
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Craig, Thanks I will check that A. Gough in the records and see what I can surface. Though I am sure if some real Parker lover reads this, they will have more at their fingertips. Our Goughs keep getting listed as English. There are other Goughs in CT during this period. Some are listed as Welsh. I keep asking myself if they are all the same family. Robert, I notice anomalies. Sometimes I point them out, e.g. the city directory reference above. Usually I just quote the source and leave it alone. In my job I see "bad data" everyday. I find it as no surprise that hand written records from 100+ years ago contain "bad data". On a personal note, on one side of my family the name was changed some time during immigration. On the other side, I have only found 1 record that had that name spelled correctly. So what's a few vagaries in the patent office.... Did you ever look at his barrel making patent? Pete
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From the 1908 Catalog: Pete
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I did a bit more on the Gough's. Apparently William left and went to work for Fox. He apparently engraved their higher grade guns. There is some thought that he may have done engraving for Remington and perhaps also Colt. I loose track of him in the public records.
Can't locate an A. Gough and tie him to engraving, but that is not earthshaking.
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Some more guns:
"The New Aubrey" on both side plates, 12 gauge hammer, rib marked: "MF'D. BY THE MERIDEN FIREARMS CO. MERIDEN CT. PAT'D. JULY 9 1907", #111510, 32" steel barrels. Choked extra full both barrels.
Serial no. 3457. 12 gauge. 30-inch Damascus barrels marked: Genuine Damascus. Matted flat rib with locking extension. Casehardened sidelock action with 50-60% coverage of border engraving, foliate scroll details and game scenes of pheasants, quail and ducks. Bar-action locks marked: The A. J. Aubrey. Extractor. Automatic safety. Checkered half-pistol grip stock of slightly figured walnut. Maker's hard rubber gripcap and buttplate. Checkered pull-off splinter fore-end
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