John, here's one for you to check out: A very unusual double trigger SKB. Go to Guns International, #100785883. I've never seen one like that. It's the SKB that appears in my 1961 Shooters Bible (several years before Ithaca started importing SKB's). $450 with ejectors. Back then, $450 would have bought you a Bernardelli Holland sidelock, or a Franchi Condor sidelock. If I were looking for a relatively modern 12ga with DT's but one that's a cut above most others, and for about the same money as a new SKB from Turkey, I'd take a hard look at that one.