That's a fair conclusion Jon, based on your experience. I'm just not sure it is scientifically correct. My quail in my personal experience were on the way out before GA even thought about turkeys. Could be the same with ruffed grouse, I don't know.

Armadillos, cow birds, fire ants, fragmentation of suitable habitat, shopping centers and subdivisions, wire-mouthed bird dogs, over shooting, unknown disease, insecticide, herbicide, and now of course Moon Rocks.

I just don't think we know or we'd fix it. Scientists are working on it. Maybe they'll find the true answer and bring back the bobwhites before we're to old to care...Geo