I have read of many people commenting on Longshot powder's nasty recoil. It is a punch, not a push, and yes I was using it to duplicate other heavy loads only to see how the patterns turned out on the patterning board. Funny how a powder change can affect that. I would suspect skeet shooters have definite preferences concerning "soft" shooting powders, as well. Nothing likes hundreds of rounds to make you want to find a little more comfort.