I have a Ithaca SxS serial no 467661 it is a 5e has 2 barrels one 30" one 32" both serial numbered to the reciever. One barrel says Sir Joseph Wintworth on top the 32". This gun is on a magnum frame. Walt's book says there maybe only 9 of these guns but it also says serial no's are 5000,000 and above. My question is how rare is this gun? Thanks, Bill

How do you figure it's on a magnum frame ?

Daryl, Do you know the difference? It is odvious. I am not that much of a rookie. Would you like to see pictures of the difference I can put up both examples as I have both. Bill

ALL Ithaca Magnum 12's are stamped with 3" chamber length on the barrel flats. I have one in a field grade serial number is over 500000

Steve, Do not bet money on that! My serial no is correct and it is stamped 2 3/4 . Bill

I would!

Thanks,

Mike

I'm not saying that the gun is not on a magnum frame, I was saying that all 3" Magnum guns are stamped with chamber length on barrel flats. There were 2 3/4 mag guns built. I would not doubt that there are some 3" guns floating around with sub 500000 serial numbers either. I was simply stating that all 3" guns were appropriately marked.

ME TOO, would like to see pics.

Now that I read my previous post I see my wording error, sorry for the mistake.

Having trouble posting. Not an expert just looking for info. Help? Regards, Bill

Bill it looks to me like you did just fine. If you have more pictures please email them to me and I will post them for you tonight.

mike@quality-mechanical.XX

Replace the suffix XX with ws

Thanks,

Mike

You boys are lucky to have them, I've been on the scout for a magnum Ithaca 12 gauge for a long time.

Destry

Beauties. Both of them.

That long bar and window for the lump are conclusive characteristics. Thanks for the education.

Regards
Chuck

We've been down the road on this gun before, and it is so interesting that I saved out the pictures and the picture of the ledger page that Walter posted last time --

A few years ago a local shop had a 7E serialed in the 500,000 range. It was a 12 bore and was stamped 2 3/4". I checked with Walt and that was the way it was made. I am not sure if the gun had the lug through the receiver bottom. That seems to be one way to recognize a magnum frame. Are there other ways, such as measurements ?

Walt told me it left the factory with 2 stocks. The one on gun is monte carls trap stock. He said the records did not indicate second barrel. Both barrels have serial no. to gun on them. Maybe back to Ithaca for second barrel? One is 30" other is 32". Can post more pictures tonite. Thanks for any thoughts. Bill

Bill, To answer your first question-it is rare. Julia had a 20 ga. 5E at auction 2 or 3 years ago that had the barrel lug come through the frame like the magnum. Wish I had bought it. Some interesting configurations in those last days of the NID for sure. Look forward to more photos. Congratulations on a fine piece!