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Posted By: Boogan1 Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 05:39 PM
I recently came across this Baker Paragon 16ga sxs. Wanted to post the pictures on here to try to determine its value and any other information that you guys might have. If any other pictures are needed please ask. [img:center][/img]
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Posted By: Boogan1 Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 05:45 PM
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Posted By: gunut Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 05:50 PM
looks redone...but a pretty good job....should be a nice shooter....no idea on what it should be worth....
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 05:51 PM
Note the "P.K.E."; Paragon Krupp Ejector.
Posted By: Daryl Hallquist Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 05:56 PM
Paragon 1124 shows in my notes from about 1980 when it was owned by a Mr. Johnson in Oregon. Later the frame was re case colored and eventually the late Russ Ruppell of near St. Louis owned it. Russ put on a new forend wood and buttplate and may have corrected some problem at one muzzle.

A 16 gauge in the 1909 Paragon model is rare, but the gun's alterations detract. Originally the gun had 30 inch barrels.
Posted By: Boogan1 Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 06:38 PM
Daryl, could you please send me a pm? I tried and it says you are over your limit. Thanks
Posted By: Daryl Hallquist Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 07:21 PM
PM sent. Email is in my profile. Daryl
Posted By: Researcher Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 08:18 PM
From The Baker Gunner, No. 4, 1909. The new Model Nineteen-nine --



and the original Paragon Grade --



A few years later, Baker Gun & Forging Co. changed the top rib bolting on the Paragon (and higher) Grades again --



Daryl, any idea what the F.E.S. on the barrel flat and the two letter S on the bottom of the barrel lug mean?

Posted By: Daryl Hallquist Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 08:40 PM
Dave, I am not sure. Baker seemed to confuse these markings sometimes, too. P K E /NN is surely Paragon Krupp Ejector Nineteen Nine. I have seen P D, P K, N E S, L E S. And I am sure others. The first letter seems to be the Grade, Sometimes the next letter is Ejector, sometimes barrel material type, sometimes indicating a single trigger. Really, no hard and fast rules as I see it.

The F E S , in addition to the others is new to me. I can only guess that F might be Fluid, E might be ejector, S might be Steel or maybe the gun had a single trigger at one time. Oddly there are two S on the barrel lump and the font appears to be the same as in F E S. I have never seen this, either. For all we know F E S could be a man's name.
Posted By: Researcher Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 08:48 PM
Just noticed something rather cool, those two little semicircular recesses on the back edge of the forearm iron that mate with the two little tabs that extend forward from the watertable.
Posted By: ClapperZapper Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 09:31 PM
Daryl, Thank-you.
That is what I came to this site for.
Honesty, integrity, and clarity, in the old shotgun market.
Posted By: canvasback Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/20/15 10:08 PM
Not sure I have ever seen a 16 ga. Paragon before. Barrel length (actual)? Weight? Gauge specific receiver? What's it handle like?
Posted By: Boogan1 Re: Baker Paragon information - 10/21/15 12:00 AM
The barrels are 30 inches. I don't have a scale to weigh it. I am not well versed enough to describe how it handles other than better than any other double I have ever shouldered, including my winchester 21. Daryl and others, thank you all so much for all the great information on this old classic.
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