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Posted By: Brian RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 03:09 AM
I had a conversation with a very reliable source today. he informed me that there will be both a 12 Ga RBL and a 16 Ga RBL in the near future (6 months to a year)
I asked "12 Ga???"
Why?

I figured a game gun. Who would want that. But the plan is for a heavier 12 SXS for Sporting and wildfowl.Especially for those who like to do their shootign and competition with a SxS but want something stouter than a 6 1/2 lb game gun. Supposedly will offer 32" barrels, Vent rib as option. I would speculate that it will have choke tubes and be steel shot capable.

The real good news is that there will be a 16 Ga coming. I hope they build it in the 20 Ga frame. What a sweet heart that would be. I am sure that there will be all the options as seen on previous offers.
Posted By: Jimmy W Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 10:27 AM
That sounds good, Brian. But I don't know about the 16 on a 20 gauge frame. It might be a little hard kicking. A lot of 16 gauges already kick like a 12 gauge when they are on a 12/16 gauge frame.
Posted By: fishrising Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 10:33 AM
I was at Galazan's on Monday and Lou said "he wouldn't be surprised if a limited run of 16s came out, they'd make them for a week and then be done with that gauge."

I'm going back on Thursday, so I'll make some further inquiries.
Shows how little they know about their customer base.

The 16 would outsell the 20.

A 12 ga. target gun would sell very well.
Posted By: bbman3 Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 03:13 PM
I believe a 410 RBL would be a winner! Bobby
Posted By: shinbone Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 03:20 PM
I'd line up for a 16ga RBL in a heart beat. IMHO, 16ga barrels on a 20ga frame would be even better.

Not sure how a 16/20 RBL would compare, but I've got a 16ga Citori Feather weighing 6.25 lbs, which I dearly love for hunting.

--shinbone
Posted By: Researcher Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 03:40 PM
I'd think a medium to heavy weight 12-gauge with a full range of options to outfit as a target gun or a modern day Super-Fox or Magnum-NID would be great. Maybe even a 10 1/2 pound Magnum-Ten for the Elmer wanna bes.
Posted By: fishrising Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 05:28 PM
Saw Lou today, and he laughed when I brought up the 16g RBL and a .410. He said he has a long list of wants from people, but we'll see. Got to see the factory floor though, a whole bunch of RBL28s about to get shipped, and Tony's bright yellow Ferrari in the parking lot.
Posted By: Recoil Rob Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 05:55 PM
Originally Posted By: Researcher
I'd think a medium to heavy weight 12-gauge with a full range of options to outfit as a target gun or a modern day Super-Fox or Magnum-NID would be great. Maybe even a 10 1/2 pound Magnum-Ten for the Elmer wanna bes.


I'd go with that as long as it's steel shot safe.
Posted By: B Frech Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 06:27 PM
Wishful thinking I might get mine soon. About how many is "a whole bunch". are we talking 20, 50, over 100?
I spoke to Lou about a 12ga target weight RBL a few months back at one of the shooting events. He said the only issue would be potential warranty expense for guns that would see much more use than 20ga and 28ga game guns. That being said I would be first in line for a modern day 12ga Super-RBL. Please Tony
Posted By: Timothy S Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 07:58 PM
I would even get in line for one of those thangs iffen they would lay out that 410.
Lou obviously isn't an engineer either. The design needs weight to be a good target gun, and any gun designer worthy of the name knows where to put the weight in a target gun.

How can a company spokesman not have a clue?
Posted By: Researcher Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 10:34 PM
I just cleaned out the messages on the machine Sunday and there were no calls from Carol on my 28-gauge PIF 31 Oct 2007.
Posted By: Brian Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 11:25 PM
My source is very close to the source. I take their word for it.
Posted By: Erik W Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/13/08 11:26 PM
If CSM is going to make a 12ga target gun, they will need to pay more attention to the chokes they supply. My late #19xx RBL 20 has a SK choke @ .000; IC @ .010; MOD @ .013 IM @ .025 and FULL @ .040. A couple of them are very coursely finished on the inside. The MOD is the only one near what I would expect. The SK and FULL are useless.
Posted By: fishrising Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/14/08 12:34 AM
A "whole bunch" would be about 40ish.
Posted By: bbman3 Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/14/08 02:16 AM
Researcher , They are going to make us sweat it out on receiving ours! Bobby
Posted By: DAM16SXS Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/14/08 02:35 AM
HOLY ---- .040" is full+ on a 12 ga. I guess .040" constriction on a 20 ga. is a lot more than a "whole bunch"!! That probably produces patterns like my 100 yard .270 targets look like after shooting all morning!
Posted By: marklart Re: RBLs in the works. A 16 and a 12!!!!! - 08/14/08 05:28 AM
I would give a 16 RBL serious consideration.
Researcher, Thanks for wake up call. I was kind of interested until I remembered the long wait! I'd like a one in 12 bore, but only if it were priced like the launch edition. $3500-$4000 buys a lot more gun than just a RBL.
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