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I have not posted here on this board for quite a while - still read it often, though. I posted this question on the other board as well, so we'll see what happens here...
I'm getting the itch for an English game gun. Some questions:
1. What are the general opinions and thoughts about wood extentions on stocks? I understand that's more common "over there," but does it really kill the value of the gun? Say you found a gun with good LOP, but it had a 1" extention. Would it be a good or bad idea to remove the extention and replace it with a recoil pad?
2. Where to find one? I've looked at Hill Rod and Gun (good reputation?) and Cabela's (I've dealt with them many times before). There are some other shops online I know - where have you had good luck finding a good, affordable gun? I'm looking in the lower end, of course - B'ham BLEs and such.
I have the book by Dig Hadoke on order, so that will help I'm sure. I appreciate any help or insight you can pass along...
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A well matched extention is no problem and for that matter any extention be it wood or rubber as in a recoil pad. You can fine nice Brit guns on this forum in the for sale section just post WTB and tell what you are looking for.
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Believe me, if the proofhouse would not proof it there is a reason. The letter is called a proof exemption certificate. They are given for one of the two reasons stated in the letter. Most often given for reason number one. For some reason the barrels had to be reproofed in 1988. The barrels were made prior to that. It was most likely restored in 88 and the gunsmith by law had to send the barrels in for reproof for some reason. The owner might have asked the PH not to proof it because he wasn't going to shoot it. It does look like a great gun, but I wouldn't buy it as a shooter if it sold for $1000 until I knew why it needed to be reproofed and why it wasnt.
Last edited by Mike Harrell; 09/24/08 05:23 AM.
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Most likely to be sold in USA, and the owner didn't want to chance proofing his meal ticket.
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Recoil pads are fairly heavy and can affect the fine balance of a British game gun. I'd rather have a wood or ebonite extention.
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tmaple: If the gun you're looking at has a nice extension, I would definitely not replace it with a pad. A light game gun is not for repetitive shooting at targets, at least not in my opinion, making recoil reduction only a minor advantage; a pad is to add length, which the extension already is doing. I also wouldn't worry about how it affects value, as any devaluation should occur at the time of purchase ... if anyone took a hit, it was the guy who paid for the extension in the first place, right? I think they look fine if well done, they are common and appropriate on this kind of gun, and if you don't like the looks of it, find one without an extension, as there are tons of them around as well. My two cents. Good luck. TT
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Keep in mind that there are no magic numbers for weight, balance, or swing efforts. What you like and/or shoot well are just as individual as stock fit dimensions. If you know what you like, extensions and/or pads, forearm work, and barrel work can be planned for. You can test out changes by taping weights to simulate weight increases. Unfortunately, you can't easily test for weight removal. Weight and balance are frequently planned for and require only a weighing scale and a balance "fulcrum." Swing can also be planned for, but requires moment of inertia measurements. Anything that changes weight and/or where weight is located effects handling.
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That Horsley is a bit odd. The Proof Exeption certificate is dated 1988 but the proof marks are dated 1999. The proof marks are for London re-proof; now where are the old marks? Looks like a new set of barrels were made for the gun and it was re-proofed. If new barrels were made for it by anyone other than the person entitled to be called the 'maker' then it should say 'new barrels by' on the rib. The person who holds the Horsley name is W.Richards of Liverpool. Nice gun and worth around the 'buy now' price if a shooter. I would expect to pay around that here in the U.K. Lagopus.....
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I appreciate the comments. As far as the wood extensions are concerned, a lot of them don't look much different than the wood buttplates you see these days on the Italian guns. They just tend to be 1/2" or 1/4" longer than those plates they put on Guerinis and some others. Maybe not that big a deal, but they always struck me as odd. From a balance standpoint, I'm sure they are much better than a pad, though.
I like that gun on GB - not looking for a hammergun, though.
Thanks again for the help - anything else is appreciated!
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