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double barrel - need help to identify #122388 11/19/08 01:27 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 53 ithacaman OP Sidelock
OP ithacaman Sidelock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 53	I have a double barrel shotgun that is marked AD Jansen Fabricant D' Armes no one barrel and DE S.M. Le Roi. Bruxelles, it's very nice, is engraved, double triggers with ejectors, nice chekering, 12 Gauge, straight stock and is marked 2 in gold on the lever and the rib of the barrle near the reciever. The gun is in very good condition, with plenty of case color and blueing is very strong - Looks like it's seen very little use. I'd like to know what exactly it is and approximate value. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Scott

Re: double barrel - need help to identify ithacaman #122389 11/19/08 01:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,454 Likes: 330 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,454 Likes: 330 AZ but dreaming of KS	Looks like Adolph made some nice guns Unfortunately, no catalogs are shown. http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/art...dolphe%20gb.htm Last edited by revdocdrew; 11/19/08 01:41 PM. https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: double barrel - need help to identify ithacaman #122390 11/19/08 01:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Arizona James M Sidelock
James M Sidelock Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 7,438 Arizona	Certainly appears you have a Belgian gun. Why don't you either post pics. or copy down the markings on the barrel flats and the water table and I'm sure you will find out more. jim The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.

Re: double barrel - need help to identify ithacaman #122391 11/19/08 01:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	Scott, It would help if you posted pictures. The gun is Belgian. Here are the proof marks and maker's marks: http://damascus-barrels.com/bp.html Janssen was a family of gun makers. Here is a bit about them: http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge/artisans%20identifies%20i%20j%20k/a%20janssen%20freres%20gb.htm Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: double barrel - need help to identify PeteM #122396 11/19/08 02:30 PM
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OP ithacaman Sidelock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 53	Thanks for the info. here are some pics

Re: double barrel - need help to identify ithacaman #122399 11/19/08 02:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	Scott, A very nice gun. It would help if you could provide some clearer pictures of the markings. Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: double barrel - need help to identify PeteM #122405 11/19/08 03:07 PM
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OP ithacaman Sidelock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 53	these are the markings:

Re: double barrel - need help to identify ithacaman #122426 11/19/08 05:14 PM
Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,158 Likes: 208 Maryland eightbore Sidelock
eightbore Sidelock Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 14,158 Likes: 208 Maryland	How long are the barrels and how much does the gun weigh? It looks like it may be a pigeon gun from the side clips and third fastener. I'm guessing 29 1/2" and more than 7 1/4 pounds. If it were made for an Italian shooter, it may have 28" barrels.

Re: double barrel - need help to identify eightbore #122430 11/19/08 05:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,454 Likes: 330 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,454 Likes: 330 AZ but dreaming of KS	The 12 in the diamond is a pre-1924 mark. The Date of Proof letters started in 1922. 18.4 is the bore in mm 22 cm from the breech = .724" 17.8 is the choke = .701" The 1 K xxx is the barrel weight after smokeless proof The spangled letters are controller's (inspector's) marks Last edited by revdocdrew; 11/19/08 05:25 PM. https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: double barrel - need help to identify Drew Hause #122445 11/19/08 07:00 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 53 ithacaman OP Sidelock
OP ithacaman Sidelock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 53	barrels are 27 3/4, i'm not sure what the weignt. What would you estimate the value to be on this? thank you, scott

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