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I agree with Sam. Here's the Green Dot load to start with: http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/R...=3&gauge=28

I haven't used Green Dot, but I have used International Clays with 5/8 oz, the older, short AAHS hulls, and the Claybuster HS wad. It works great and I didn't even need a filler.

What a great response. Thanks all. I have lots of Universal and STS hulls so that would be a good starting point. Now the STS hulls don't have a long life but as the folded crimp area burns through they are candidates for 2 1/2 hulls- maybe with a Harten crimp using 410 over shot cards to take up space. Wonder if a hole puncher would make big enough ones for this purpose. The disc is 1/4". Worth a try and I better pull those burnt hulls out of my waste basket before I bury them with more junk on top. I think I now know where to start. What great ideas. I have messed around with 12g. but this is like micro work. Should be fun. Now to find the time to do all this. Happy holidays and a happy and healthy New Year to all of you. What a great bunch of friends I have made here on this board.

Milt

Milt, Green Dot is way too fast burning and high pressure for a gun such as yours. You are better off sticking to a slower powder like Unique and light shot loads to keep the pressure well below 10,000. Green Dot is not a preferred powder in 28 gauge even though it is mentioned in the occasional published load. Those loads are meant for people who just happen to have Green Dot on hand and have a modern 28 gauge gun.

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It is a 1963 gun but it is an inexpensive one designed for 2 1/2" shells. I was hoping to use Universal but that is published at 11,500psi so even if I drop it a half grain with 5/8 oz.shot I doubt it would go below 11K. I think I may have the duster wads on hand but I have had experience with some of the smaller brands like Windjammer and they come out way above the published data. There was a thread the other day about this wad with Clays powder in 12g. published at 5500psi and I did not trust it and had Ambrust check them. They came in over 7500 psi as an average.


The more I learn, it seems, the less I know. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Curious, I have switched to PB for my low pressure 12g. loads for a lot of reasons but in 28 gauge it provides a fairly high pressure load.

Milt, the "elaboration" is very simple and I outlined it in the previous post. A fast burning powder like Green Dot is not suitable for your gun because of the high pressure generated by the faster burning rate and the 3/4 ounce load. As you go down in shot weight and powder burning rate, the pressure goes down. Although the Unique is a better choice than the Green Dot, the Herco would be better yet. A mild shot of Herco with a 5/8 ounce or less shot load would get you down into the nines, maybe even the eights. This would be a much better choice for your gun or a Damascus 28 than any of the Alliant published loads. I would cut about a half grain or more of powder from any Herco load listed above, load it with 5/8 ounce or less and a spacer and send it to Tom A. It should come in at a safe pressure range for your gun and the pressure should be plenty high to eliminate off sound loads as long as you use good empties. Murphy

Milt, if you send any more of the light loads to Tom A., let us know what pressure they generate.

I would be happy to. When I get the 28 gauge loads ready, I will. It will be a while since I have to order the 5/8 ounce bar for my MEC 9000.

If I had any sense I would have sent my PB loads to him instead of just trusting the manual. If anyone has tested the PB 20 grain., Claybuster wad, one ounce lead shot, Remington primer, 5100 psi as published on line at IMR I would love to hear from them regarding pressure and velocity.

That would be a good application for a universal charge bar. You could tweek the ingredients (downward) until everything just fits, then send it off to be chrono'd.
Here is what I am using for skeet and it works very well:
AA 28 (old style not HS)
Win 209/chedite is ok to sub
claybuster wad
5/8 oz lead shot.
You might need a touch of filler depending on your loader.

My wife shoots a 28. I load some loads with HS6 that are almost recoiless...seem to break rocks and kill the neighbors pigeons.