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A bag of shot and 1000 primers used to cost $20 each in my area, now they're $30 each. Rumor has it China's demand for metal of all kinds is jacking up the price, others say the war in Iraq has got shot,primer and ammo makers in general flat out providing what the military needs which limits their production for non-military needs. Can anybody confirm these rumors or have a different theory? What are reloading components running in your areas?
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I have read the demand for lead by foreign countries has helped drive the price of lead to $1770 per ton. One person on one of the boards suggested that is almost $30 a bag prices.
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Primers have been in spot shortage for one brand or the other for more than a year. Same with clay targets and shot which has been going up for three plus years. Rumors are just that. Oil is higher so everything that uses oil of energy is higher. The increase in lead prices makes gold look like a poor investment.
I am still using $10.00/ bag shot that I bought a few years ago by the pallet from a large wholesaler. Hope the cycle bust before I have to buy again. Know a one reloader who has shot he bought 20+ years ago for $18.00/bag which seems cheap now.
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"Allocation" to distributors of Remmy STS209 primers would seem to indicate personnel, machines, or both busy with something more lucrative/necessary than reloading components or there is a hitch in the supply train somewhere.
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There doesn't seem to be any shortages of these materials in our neck of the woods. A couple of weeks ago I bought shot for $22 a bag and Fiocchi primers for $18-$19/1000. I think Winchester 209 went for about $22/1000. This was in Delaware and south Jersey area.
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Shooters here are starting to use import primers and finding them to be VERY good, Chedite, Rio, DN. At under 80 per brick they will let the WW and STS boys catch up and then fold because they abused to many shooters. Perhaps if they put a hemi and tailfins on those 209's they can stay in business. bill
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Remington, America's Oldest Importer, is busy unloading Russian crap shotguns and somebody else's crap Mauser style rifles.
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Jim,
Well said. I have long railed against the dim-whitted pencil pushers at Remington. They have been too slow on the uptake for 30 years and constantly missed every chance to grab the dominate market share in US firearm and ammo sales. Instead they linger with almost no O/U sales, almost no pump sales, fair automatic sales, fair rifle sales and almost no major share of any clay target game sales. They are more interested in marketing clothes, selling other makers guns and selling a few shells instead of making a major impact on gun sales for the next 50 years. Thank God I do not have any money invested in them or they would really hear what I think aobut them.
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At least Remington is doing better than Winchester....:-/
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They can't be far behind and they're on the same path. Has anyone even seen one of their new autoloaders, the 105 CTi?
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