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Sidelock
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Like Joe Wood says...MY "H" Lefever ate almost that many 1 oz loads over the last few years.Still Trukin!
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Sidelock
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Sidelock
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I have a Baker "B" grade that has been shooting around that number of 1oz. loads for a few years now.
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How about a brand new Ruger Red label?? I know people trash them and I started believing them until I bought their 28 gauge. What a sweety!! American industry and not to mention the American worker could use a few customers right now. 
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Sidelock
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Ted, I would guess that the Model 21s you recall having "heard about" actually had loose ribs or forend lugs back when Winchester would have fixed them for thirty two bucks. Unfortunately, the owners probably wouldn't know a loose rib if it spit on them. I shot a Model 21 Trap with a loose rib and forend lug for about twenty years before I had it fixed last year. I just didn't shoot it in the rain. Your use of the word "lug" would lead some readers to believe that the locking lug became unsoldered and loose, which cannot happen in a 21. It really isn't that big a problem and I've had one loose rib in about twenty five Model 21s over 44 years.
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I put 5000 rounds through my Beretta 471 20 gauge in 4 days down in Argentina last year. Never a hiccup.
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A Purdey sidelock will digest thousands of rounds for years and still lock-up tight.
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Sidelock
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"Heard about" in this case refers to reading the letters exchanged between Mr. Olin and at least one customer that appeared on the model 21 board several years past, when old John fessed up to the problem.
Reading the actual letters would cause readers to understand it was the forend lug being discussed by old John. I've handled at least three guns that needed the repair, which, for as long as I've been shooting here on planet earth, cost more than $32.
$32 bought some nice guns in the era of the 1930s, when the problem surfaced. I'm sure Olin and company figured it out, and later guns don't suffer the problem to the degree the first guns did.
But, the problem exists, and can be documented.
Best,
Ted
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sir, i think he meant something that could stand up to promo loads from WALMART, KMART,....not that fancy, smancy enlish stuff costing $10-$15 per box!
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