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Just got back from shooting a round of skeet and trap. Tonite my skeet gun was a Dickson and Son, Churchill style, BL. This fall I had it out to Mike Orlen to open the left barrel from full to LM. Right is original Cyl. Tonight I shot the 2nd box of ammo out of it. After the skeet round, I heard a buzz as the barrel tapped on my leg. Rib is loose from the muzzle back 10", lifted up about 1/16". Is opening the choke generating enough heat to melt the solder? or is rib seperation just part of the vintage game? S--t happens, so to speak. Not at all blaming Mike as he would have had to notice the seperation and made mention of it..... Question, Now who is the go to guy to have it fixed? Cost? Randy
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I could be wrong but I don't think it's possible to generate enough heat to melt the solder from the friction of opening the chokes.
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Might be, might not be, but thats why you keep your guns in their original condition, or the condition your bought them in.
I've learned to live with chokes on guns I really like - shipping guns and 'smiths are risky deals.
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Lowell so is driving to the store.
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So is anything, but the trick is to reduce your risk.
Shipping guns, to a gunsmith is risky business.
...and as you know, the stories abound around here.
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Steve Bertram, in Boulder has fixed a couple for me. Good job.
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Randy: you're surrounded by doublegun guys  Channing Will Will’s Gun Shop, Inc. Spruce, MI 989-727-2500 Del Whitman http://dcwhitmangunsmithing.com/index.html Lake Ann, MI 231-275-0140 231-632-0845 dwhitman@centurytel.net Hugh Lomas 920-876-3745 Elkhart Lake, WI. Dennis Potter Muskego, WI 414-425-4830 potter@execpc.com Mark Beasland Mosinee, WI http://www.mbabllc.com mark@mbabllc.com 866-622-2486
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Randy,
Dennis Potter (Guild Master) is probably the best at everything, but there's probably a long line of projects ahead of you. If you're in a hurry, contact Del Whitman.
Why did your rib come loose? I never heard the perfect answer as to reason, just that a fault was created in the solder joint that resulted in failure of the joint. Also heard its common when silver solder is used with rust blue barrels on a vintage gun.
My personal experience is it only happens on barrels that have been backbored, or chokes opened (although age can do it too).
All agree that not enough heat is generated during the process of backboring or opening chokes to affect the silver solder joint. But the action of the reamer (a slow load friction of metal on metal) does create harmonics in the barrel that could possibly break a weak solder line joining rib to barrels. I've had it happen twice on Perazzi target barrels that were worked on by Ken Eyster.
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Thanks all for the input. The solder line is very fine so may be just a weakness in the joint. Randy
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