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Looking at George H Daw under lever 12g 2 1/2 inch Damascus in very good condition Serial No 2XX heavily engraved, overall 85% locks up tight no pits, a piece of the forend wood is missing but can be repaired


Any info please

Hotrack

Hotrack
I have a cased Daw 16 bore just under Serial # 200. Daw was the first to use modern centerfire cases. They are very nice early centerfire guns. If your deal falls thru let me know I may be interested.
Cheers,
Laurie

Laurie I'm in Australia, asking price is $1200 Australian at about 0.72 to $US1.00

Hotrack

Hotrack,
Price sounds good to me. If I had seen it when I was In OZ 07 I would have purchased it. I have a friend in Brisbane with a Daw that is just a bit before mine. I will try to send you a PM and we can do a bit of chatting off the board.
Cheers,
Laurie

Don't try to take any information from the brand name. You have described a gun of pretty good original quality in pretty good current condition. It will very likely shoot a long time with a low pressure and low recoil diet. The price sounds quite good.

I can find no reference to Geoge H.Daw at 57, Tilley Road, London.
Daw is recorded as being located at;57 Threadneedle Street 1861- 1887 & at 2 North Buildings, Chapel Street.[Later he was at other London locations, using variations on the Daw name but is not recorded as being at Tilley Road.]
In 1887 in a letter to the editor of the British magazine,"Shooting", Daw stated that his guns were engraved as follows; On the barrel rib,"Geo H. Daw and Co; 57 Threadneedle Street,London," on lock plates; "Geo H Daw and Co;' In some cases the action body of the gun was also marked Geo;H.Daw and Co,together with Daw,s patent number.
The reason Daw was writing to the magazine was because spurious guns bearing his name were showing up on the market![Spurious guns was a serious problem for many leading gunmakers of the era.]
As I write, I have beside me Daw gun #5XX a I2,G.hammer gun built to Daw,s patent #1594 of 1862 [This is an improvement on F.E.Schneider,s patent of 1861 previously purchase by Daw] This gun is not engraved, "and Co;" this was not added to the company name until 1876.
Unique features of the Daw guns include;
.Fore end is semi permanently attached to the action body.Its removal requires the services of a gunsmith.
. If the gun is in origional condition, you will find located behind the heel and toe plates of the stock;spare firing pins and a spare cartridge extractor.
The classic Daw gun is pictured on the dust cover of the British Shotgun, Vol;1, by Crudgington and Baker.The book contains an excellent write up on Daw, his gun and his legal battles with Eley related to patent claims on centrefire cartridges.
The Cotswood gun room in the U.K. has a genuine Daw gun for sale, price 3250 pounds stirling. If the gun you are viewing is the genuine article, it would be an excellent buy?


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Roy, I have checked with the dealer again and the address on the barrell is 57 Threadneedle Street, and it has Geo H Daw on the locks, Dealer was going from memoey when I asked him about address. Bores are .730 at the muzzle, using calipers, Dealer does not have a bore mike. If cyl and cyl then it would be ok but if choked then it must have had some serious honing, it's adout 150 miles away so don't want to drive that far if it's just a wall hanger

Hotrack

My Daw gun is cylinder bored in both barrels. Bore sizes are .731 and .729. The barrel length is 28 inches[not cut down].
Proof marks are London Black powder,12. Early Daw hammer guns are very rare, in particular if in sound shootable condition. This is reflected in the asking price at the Cotswood gun room. Recommend you make the trip to examine this example.

Some of the Daw guns have a spare extractor and firing pins housed under the butt plate. Worth knowing if you ever need them. Lagopus.....