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This is a new field for me but I just traded into a pretty little 16 ga in unfooled with condition and I'm smitten. Any info or experience you fellows could tell me would be much appreciated. It is marked bSw - suhl, bbl is marked svenskt specialstal,,sandvik". Bbls are about 28 3/8" MOD X IMP MOD.
It has ejectors and 'loaded indicators' but no cocking indicators. The butplate and triggerguard appear to be horn or bakalite.The butstock has a tigerstripe throughout that would do a kentucky rifle proud,but is walnut,of course. The workmanship is top notch to my eye. It reminds me of a few I've seen that the owners called 'liege guns'. There is a moderate amt of engraving with a duck on underside of rec'r. What do I have?
By the way, condition is very good-exc still some bright case colors. Thank you for any thoughts, guesses,or information.
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sounds like it is made in Sweden. Possibly a Husqvrna? -Im
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Dave: I'm sure others will be along shortly, but the markings and that horn triggerguard seem to say is that the gun's probably of German (Suhl) manufacture and bbls are Swedish (Svenskt) steel. That "Sandvik" is a little confusing; unless I'm mistaken that's a town in Norway (maybe location of a retailer??).
Are there any other markings on the gun? Any proof marks on the barrels or frame? If so and you can post photos or describe them, we could probably come up with more info. Good luck, Jerry
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Sandvik is a steel mfg. in Sweden. possibly Swedish steel? Which begs the question, if it is made in Suhl, why not use Krupp Steel?-IM
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Sandviken is a city and the steel was better (Sandvik steel)
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While I was still working as a machinist we used tool holders & their carbide inserts all trade marked "Sandvik", very high grade.
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Sandvik is a steel mfg. in Sweden. possibly Swedish steel? Which begs the question, if it is made in Suhl, why not use Krupp Steel?-IM A swedish firm bought actions from Suhl, finished them with Sandvik barrels? Replacement barrels?
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I agree with 2-piper. Back in the late 60's early 70's was apprenticing as a machinist with a company called Sweda,were in the process then of making data pen cash registers. All the machinery was set up in mm, all the measuring equipment was in mm, and most of the cutting tools were of Sweedish steel, Sandvik, great stuff to work with. In my opinion I think it was some of the best steel around for machining and hardening. Their cutting tools outlasted most of the others.
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BSW was the name of Simson from 1936-1939. The Simson's were forced to emigrate from Germany for religious reasons. The German government took the factory in 1936 renaming it Berliner Suhler Waffen (hence BSW) and again renamed it Gustloff Werke in 1939. So it's a German gun with Swedish steel. I would venture that the majority of steel production in those years might not have had the consumer as its primary customer, ergo Sandvik.
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