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Jim,
Mine is a Nº51 because the AYA people said so. According to what I can gather, the Nº51 is a Nº53 ejsxs: Well that's pretty definitive!!  Jim
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Jim,
Sorry for being untidy with my typing, look again to the edited version.
Gary,
the Third Bite is a tooth (or cam if you like) that is placed between the ejectors and is engaged by a cam operated by the top lever.
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Gary, if you look forward of the trigger guard on your gun, you'll see that periphery of the trigger plate is in the form of a "T". I may have spoken out of turn by giving this too much emphasis. Presumably several models could have this feature or could have it or not have it depending on age of the gun. As my No. 2 does not have a plate of that shape, it tells me that it's not a No. 2 from the early eighties but of course you already knew that. By the by, I thought the Purdey "third bite" bolted into the wall of the standing breech.
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Jim, I have not identified Gary's gun in question as a 53. It definitely is not. That is why I posted the photos of my son's 53, to show the marked differences. Here are some more photos of the 53 together with what I think to be a 117, with very plain engraving, no articulated front trigger, no rolled trigger guard, etc.     JC
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Jim,
Gary's gun is most definitely not a Number 53, it lacks the sideclips and the engraving style. I have to check when I get home whether my 53 has the cruciform plate.
Gary,
When you break open the gun the Purdey third bite is the projection that extends from the barrel to engage an opening in the action face, pretty slick.
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Khanh,
Yes both models, Nº51 and 53, have the cruciform plate, at least my two guns do have them. From JayCee´s pictures we can deduce that the Nº117 lack floating sleeved strickers and gas valves while they are present in the other two models.
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Here is a photo that may be useful to those with better eyesight than I. Apparently the 53 and the 117 have both cruciform plates:  JC
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No, thank you Gary for a great excuse to pull my toys out of the vault. This thread has been very informative. Those are some beautiful guns. How did you come by them?
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