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This is a great post. I like this topic.This site has lots of advantage. I found many interesting things from this site. It helps me many away..So i want some information for sharing this side with some of my friend. Thanks

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Fred Bowen has been toiling away on my Farquharson for the past few weeks.












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The engraving looks very nice joel, are you reconciled to accepting the pitting?

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As you know, that's always one of the considerations when restoring a firearm or any other antique. Generally I don't mind leaving some "distressing" because at the end I still want it to look like a 100+ year old rifle. I guess if I was restoring it to deceive I would take a different approach. With all the great craftsmen like you around right now I know a firearm can be made to look factory new. A number of years ago Dave Norin complained bitterly that a customer of his sold 2 spectacular High Walls through an auction house and allowed them to be described as "mint". Dave didn't see the catalog until a year after the fact. He immediately bought a stamp to mark his work so it would never happen again and has refused to do any other work for that person. Normally I would never restore a firearm, but in this case the heavy hand of a "bubba" required it.

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i also enjoy this thread and your project. i have been having a sauer dr. restored and was pleased to see others shared my thoughts in leaving indications of restoration behind. the gun is what it is. just my thoughts on the matter and thanks for a very nice insight on your project. regards bob

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Originally Posted By: joelblack88
I cant remember. It was about 6 years ago, but here is a link:
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I hope it won't be considered impertinent, but I would like to comment on the remarks in the first page of the article linked above.

The damage done to British guns and rifles is I think more likely to have been done when those arms returned to the UK with their owners from the hot and dusty corners of the Empire. They returned to homes mostly without central heating, to a cold, damp climate (except for a few summer months), often to be stored in attics & lofts and basements & cellars without in most cases I suspect, any preparation for storage in those environments.

The arms and their owners travelled to and from their overseas postings on ships, and the hold of a ship at sea is never a very dry place, nor is the salt air beneficial.

Despite the very generous leave officers could obtain before WWII, probably most of these guns and rifles spent months at a time in their cases unused.

The leather, wood and felt cases did little or nothing to keep out humidity and actually absorbed moisture from the air, which would be released when the ambient humidity decreased. That part of the moisture that escaped inward into the case would then tend to condense on the cold metal of the gun or rifle, as would any other that entered the by-no-means airtight case.

As there is nowhere in the UK to use an express rifle for example, there they would sit for decades with only an occasional cleaning if any. Many, perhaps most having a sentimental attachment for their owners, would be kept into the owners's old age, exacerbating the problems.

I remember a tailor from when I was a child who had been a district officer somewhere in Africa. He bought a .375 H&H before he went and was quite proud of the rifle, but when he told that story I doubt he had shot it for forty years. I wonder in fact when he had last looked at it, let alone cleaned it!

As we know, most of those who own firearms are not really enthusiasts or deeply interested in them; they are tools, albeit expensive ones. In India particularly, even private soldiers had Indian servants who would do much of the cleaning and polishing . I believe they were not supposed to be allowed to handle the soldier's weapons however.

In the case of officer's, they could have entrusted the cleaning of their sporting arms to their soldier-servants, or their household servants. In British regiments stationed in England, the soldier-servants (batmen) would be British of course, but there were dozens of Indian regiments which made up what was called "the Indian Army" and there the servants would be Indians of course. Probably that made little difference to the quality of the cleaning, but I can't agree that "the British Army in general did not stress keeping their arms in a pristine condition". I think if you ask any ex-British soldier, particularly one who served before WWII, you will hear in some detail just how fussy weapons cleaning and inspection was.

"FTR" or "Factory Thorough Repair" was only resorted to when necessary, and barring accidental or war damage, or simply a great deal of wear, it probably only happened once or twice in a rifle's service life. Most maintenance was done at a 'lower echelon' from what I have learned.

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Joel,
I'm glad you took no offense and wish I had stated that I meant none..
I didn't realize the engraving was meant to restore the original embellishment, I thought it was a new design(?) making it more of a custom job than a restoration and it that case I would think about eliminating the pitting as much as possible without resorting to disfigurement.

Either way, it is a fine and worthy project and I'm delighted to see it presented here.
BTW: I think you know I consider Dave Norin a good guy and a good friend!

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Steven,
I would never take offense from an honest question like yours. My purpose in documenting this project is so folks can see what artists like you, and some of the other gentlemen on this form, go through when restoring or creating a custom firearm. In truth when the inside of the barrel turned out to look like a sewer pipe (and it was not the original barrel to begin with) I supose this is more of a custom project than a restoration, but I really don't want it to look like it just came out of Gibbs works in Brstol when its done.

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After attending a family event in Europe, Fred has gone back to work on my rifle in earnest. He has the tang on a piece of wood to take pictures of it.










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Very Nice to say the least....you must be pleased!

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