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The following is Google translation of Fab's most recent post.

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1901 for a Perfection, that won't be possible. The first model appeared in 1904. Model number: 7REE. It was equipped with a spectacle trigger guard.
Starting in 1906, on this model, the trigger guard was replaced by a standard trigger guard.
The Manufactory used S powder to proof their weapons until 1913.
The half-block barrels date from 1897.
The Hercules steel dates from 1898.
A few years ago, I went to the Loire Archives to consult the Manufactory's registers. During this visit, I took some photos of the registers for the 6REE, 9EE, and 344 models, all in 12 gauge. For the Perfection, 12 and 16 gauge, that's all I have.

Demi-Bloc or half block in the translation are chopper lump barrels.


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Originally Posted by fab500
Originally Posted by graybeardtmm3
https://auctions.morphyauctions.com...ANCE_IDEAL_12_GAUGE_SIDE_BY_SIDE_SHOTGUN

jaycee's lists would certainly rearrange the dob's of my three ideals; moving #26,331 (7REP) from 1908 back to 1901 (which might explain the proof with powder S); moving #60,782 (5S) from 1928 back to 1927; and moving my little 16 gauge model 320 forward from 1933 to 1934.

and on the first page, it's clear how fab was able to quickly label #26,331, the pigeon guns were all grouped together, separated merely by french or english style.

and another bit of eye candy - file:///C:/Users/tom/Downloads/IDEAL%20PERFECTION%20RIFLE%20ENGLISH%20TYPE%20MODEL%206RE%20PLATINES%20FAUX%20BODY%20....mhtml

Salut,

1901 pour un Perfection, cela ne va pas être possible. Le premier modèle apparait en 1904. Numéro de modèle : 7REE. Il est muni d'un pontet lunettes.
A partir de 1906 sur ce modèle, le pontet sera remplacé par un pontet standard.
La Manu a utilisé la poudre S pour éprouver leur armes jusqu'en 1913.
Les canons demi-bloc datent de 1897.
L'acier Hercule date de 1898.
Il y a quelques années, je suis allé aux Archives de la Loire pour consulter les registres de la Manu. A l'occasion de cette visite, j'ai pris quelques photos des registres pour les modèles 6REE, 9EE et 344, tous en calibre 12. Pour le perfection calibre 12 et 16.C'est tout ce que j'ai.
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Wow, just saw that about fourteen years ago -in page 2 of this thread- I posted a lot of info on Idéals.


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See p. 11. The content was so good that the line had to be resurrected. smile


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