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#243954 09/14/11 11:52 AM
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An L.C. Smith Skeet Special is coming up for auction this saturday in Urbana Ohio. How many of these were made and how much collector interest do they generate? Are they comparable to what other grade in engraving and quality? Thanks.

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The LCS Skeet Special was introduced in 1929 at a price of $47.00....It was available in 12,16,20 and .410 bore. It was a new offering designed especially for skeet shooting.

It was essentially an "0" grade (Ideal Grade) with different engraving patterns better wood and when ordered with a single trigger and auto ejectors it was priced at $92.00.

The standard Skeet Special has a skeet symbol engraved on the left lockplate and a partridge in full flight on the right lockplate.

The vast majority of all Skeet Specials were made on the Featherweight frame, although a few were made on the Regular weight frame. The base rib was concave or flat, for $25.00 extra a vent rib was offered as an option. The first Skeet Specials could be ordered with full, half or straight grip at no extra charge.

Hunter Arms quickly learned that the Skeet Special was popular with the Upland Game hunters, especially the quail hunters and began advertising the gun as the "Skeet-Upland Special".......

Contrary to popular belief, Hunter Arms Co. did offer their skeet guns in the more expensive Specialty, Eagle, Crown and Monogram/Delux grades. These options were listed in the price list, but not in the catalogs of the time......

London Steel Barrels of 26,27 and 28 inches were offered. The barrels were carefully and expertly bored Skeet No. 1 (R) and Skeet No. 2 (L), ideal skeet patterns were unconditionally guaranteed. The .410 skeet guns had a stylized 3 inch chamber mark stamped on the barrels. It is not known how many higher grade Skeet Specials were made, production of standard Skeet Specials totalled 1,278 until production ceased in 1950.

A checkered wood butt was standard (no eraser) with a very large flared beaver tail forend.......If the one at your Ohio auction has not been butchered, it would have reasonable collector value, especially if it is a pre-1945 Hunter Arms Co. built LCS, not the Marlin post 1945 built.........condition, of course, would dictate the value.......






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Ruffg,
A couple things to be aware of so you're not deterred in looking at the auction gun--
1) Production of the Skeet Special ended in 1944, when it was replaced by the Premier Skeet, so don't be mislead by a serial number question,
2)As is true of all grades that Hunter produced, you could have it "any way you want it". I've probably seen more Skeet Specials choked other than Sk/Sk than the standard offering,
3)There are instances of Skeet Specials with barrel lengths other than 26,27, and 28 inches-- for example I have a lettered 30" gun.

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As has been pointed out, the Skeet Special could be ordered in any configuration; so it is not uncommon to find a Skeet Special with 32" barrels and more closely resembling a trap gun than anything else. It seems that shooters wanting just a bit of engraving on what would otherwise have been a plain field grade gun sometimes opted for a "Skeet Special" as that engraving pattern was the least expensive offered for any graded Smith gun. As FYI, I have copy of a 1941 Hunter Arms Engraving Cost Schedule prepared by Albert Kraus listing the cost for engraving "all but barrels" on the Skeet Grade at $1,35 (the Ideal Grade was $1.70).

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You might enjoy "William Harnden Foster and the L.C. Smith Skeet Special" by James Stubbendieck in the DGJ, Volume 21, Issue 4, p. 121 and http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/18779715

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Talked to Phil Thompson auction house the gun has the clay target superimposed on the quail on one side and whats looks like a grouse on the other. It has 26" barrels and beavertail forearm, bottom of barrels marked skeet. Didn't get the serial number so don't know what vintage. It has skeet special engraved on the barrel.

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Originally Posted By: ruffg
Talked to Phil Thompson auction house the gun has the clay target superimposed on the quail on one side and whats looks like a grouse on the other. It has 26" barrels and beavertail forearm, bottom of barrels marked skeet. Didn't get the serial number so don't know what vintage. It has skeet special engraved on the barrel.


ruffg:

It sounds like a very nice original gun.....I hope you become the successful new owner, good luck..........

Let us know how the auction turns out....

LEFT SIDE SKEET SYMBOL

RIGHT SIDE PARTRIDGE


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Doug




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