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"R.S. MORTIMER" HELP WITH A DBL SHOTGUN ""ID"" #245357 09/26/11 10:32 AM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 38 NEW JERSEY TRAKSGUNSMITHING OP Sidelock
OP TRAKSGUNSMITHING Sidelock Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 38 NEW JERSEY	A CUSTOMER BROUGHT IN A DBL BARREL EXPOSED HAMMER SHOTGUN...LOOKS LIKE 12 BUT I HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT. IT IS PROBABLY SMALLER , BUT ANYWAY IT HAS THE FOLLOWING MARKS ON IT, I HAVE NOT TAKEN IT APART YET FOR PROOFMARKS ON THE RIB..."BELGIAN" ON THE TWO SIDE PLATES WHICH APPEAR TO BE NICKEL PLATED IT STATES...." R. S. MORTIMER" HAS ANYONE HEARD OF THESE? WHEN WHERE THEY MADE AND WHERE. THANK YOU KURT TRAKS GUNSMITHING KCU@TRAKSGUNSMITHING.COM

Re: "R.S. MORTIMER" HELP WITH A DBL SHOTGUN ""ID"" TRAKSGUNSMITHING #245362 09/26/11 11:33 AM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2 USA Setters4life Boxlock
Setters4life Boxlock Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 2 USA	British, late 1800's I presume. Seen a few and if you surf the 'net there is some info out there. Check GabelGuns website. He may have some info, as he specializes in that period.

Re: "R.S. MORTIMER" HELP WITH A DBL SHOTGUN ""ID"" TRAKSGUNSMITHING #245363 09/26/11 12:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,457 Likes: 336 Bozeman, Mt. Daryl Hallquist Sidelock
Daryl Hallquist Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,457 Likes: 336 Bozeman, Mt.	There were Belgian "trade" hammerguns marked Mortimer. Much like the ones marked some sort of Richards. Of course, proofmarks will tell all. http://www.bakercollectors.com/

Re: "R.S. MORTIMER" HELP WITH A DBL SHOTGUN ""ID"" TRAKSGUNSMITHING #245372 09/26/11 01:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 683 Watkinsville, GA Genelang Sidelock
Genelang Sidelock Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 683 Watkinsville, GA	Charles Mortimer were the British guns. If the rib has "Belgium" on it, I doubt it's British made. Last edited by Genelang; 09/26/11 01:19 PM.

Re: "R.S. MORTIMER" HELP WITH A DBL SHOTGUN ""ID"" TRAKSGUNSMITHING #245380 09/26/11 02:45 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL PeteM Sidelock
PeteM Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 4,598 IL	Remove the barrels and take a look at the proof marks. Here are the Belgian proof marks: http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.html Pete http://www.damascus-barrels.com/Movie.html

Re: "R.S. MORTIMER" HELP WITH A DBL SHOTGUN ""ID"" TRAKSGUNSMITHING #245386 09/26/11 03:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,393 BC west coast Mike Bonner Sidelock
Mike Bonner Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,393 BC west coast	Yes, just like my "J Manton" fine British 12 bore with the classic "ELG" proofmark! Mike

Re: "R.S. MORTIMER" HELP WITH A DBL SHOTGUN ""ID"" TRAKSGUNSMITHING #245424 09/26/11 07:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,462 Likes: 89 The Great State of Tennessee HomelessjOe Sidelock
HomelessjOe Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,462 Likes: 89 The Great State of Tennessee	Sounds like a cheap Belgium knock off.

Re: "R.S. MORTIMER" HELP WITH A DBL SHOTGUN ""ID"" TRAKSGUNSMITHING #245465 09/26/11 10:22 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 931 Moscow, Russia Humpty Dumpty Sidelock
Humpty Dumpty Sidelock Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 931 Moscow, Russia	Sort of like Chinese products labeled "Abibas" and "Soney"

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