That is just neat Pre-13! I wish I had my own kids to take hunting. Old bachelors like me have to take other kids out shooting. This summer I started out one kid shooting 22 and last weekend I let two teenagers have all the fun they wanted with my Sarriugarte 12 bore. They shot up all of my trap loads on clays. Guys, whether you are married with kids or not, there are a lot of eager kids out there that want to learn to shoot. Sometimes I get into trouble with some anti-gun parents for teaching these kids but those parents can kiss me where my hair grows short and the smell grows strong.