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After glassing a stock for maximum reciever/stock contact, I've always pulled the gun back apart, mainly just to check that it will come apart. But what's the difference if it won't come apart now or later?
Is there any down side to not taking it apart after the glass has set?
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Provided that a 'Release Agent' is used on all the surfaces that the glass bedding material will come into contact with are correctly coated, there shouldn't be a problem. Sadly many people don't bother to do this job correctly and the woodwork and metal are well and truly stuck together. Contact the maker of whatever glass bedding kit you want to use, and ask their advice on what release agent works best with their product.
Glass Bedding is often carried out before a firearm is customised/ restocked/ blued or browned so there is no harm in taking it apart after the bedding material has set simply to see if it will come apart. If won't, then your stuck with it like that until you whittle all the wood away and start again.
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Heat applied to the metal will often release stuck parts.
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I've bedded a good number of rifles but only one shotgun. Some of the rifles were so closely bedded that even though they had mold release on them, they were very tight on the initial extraction. Shooting these guns first always let the action come free easily.
On the flip side, the target guys would intentionally bond the actions to the stock (composite) Removal was a bear and heat/cold was required.
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Thanks. I've done a lot of glassing shotgun stock heads using the release agent also; never got one stuck, but was just wondering if the release agent had an adverse effect on the metal.
Last edited by 2holer; 03/22/12 08:47 AM.
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For decades, I've used an industrial aerosol I picked up from the local industrial supplier of adhesives. It's a waxy film that is very thin and will allow extremely close molding to the point that all imperfections from file/tool marks and such are replicated in the epoxy. I've left that stuff on the metal for years on some guns. It seems to protect it like a long term corrosion protection.
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2-DHoler: It's just my opinion, and will undoubtedly be excoriated for it, but unless there is a SERIOUS reason for doing it (which I haven't found yet), I don't believe "glassing" is suitable for any double gun stock head/action.
If the stock fits properly, the gun will be fine. If it doesn't, the stock should be made to fit properly. To me, a glassed stock head is the greatest reason to not buy a gun.
There. I await public abuse.
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Well, I won't give any abuse, but I do not agree with the position of Mr. Rise. There are stocks that were not so well fitted when inletted that can benefit from unseen glass bedding, and older stocks that are a bit soft from oil soaking into the head can sometimes be salvaged by glass bedding. If well done, it is invisible from the exterior, and will be of benefit to the stock/metal joint, perhaps preventing damage to the stock from recoil.
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I used Brownells new water based release agent on a LCS and had problems with rust in any area that did not dry fast. It looked like a clorite problem I saw in industry. Brownells never saw any problems and did not know what they used to desolve the material in water.
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I've got to agree with ChiefShotguns on this one. Glassing the head of the stock done properly should be undetectable (except on disassembly) and IMOP is not a coverup for poor workmanship. It can salvage many old stocks that have issues & helps to prevent isues (like oil soaking)developing over time in new stocks. Not all nontraditional technology is bad.
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