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When the late FDR was referring to the "Supremes" back around 1937-ish- he used the proper term-- "Nine Old Men"- this is the way our Founding Fathers (not Founding Mothers by the way) had it planned-not just the mathematical wisdom of a odd number, with nine the pick, it would take the "Best Five of Nine" to declare a winner, just as when Rothstein fixed the 1919 World Series, it was a Nine game event then also--

Now we have women on the Court- first Sandra Day O'Connor, and what did she cast a deciding vote for that favors the 2nd. Amendment and the NRA???--I guess some would say- better Scalia, who is a dedicated hunter and gun owner,to be the Supreme to take this "Never tried a case in Court" broad Kagan out to a skeet field-rather than having Cheney invite her to a Texas quail/lawyer shoot-maybe!!!-- But I trust women and gun ownership rights issues about as much as I trust the towel-headed terrorists--NADA== Kagan will turn against legit gun owners and the NRA in a heartbeat, no matter how many empty AA hulls and powdered clays litter the skeet fields of DisneyLand on the Potomac--

Holy Smokes! I had no intention of inciting a riot. Walt, thanks for the verification. Anyone with the slightest interest in Ithaca guns (I really dont think it is possible to have a slight interest) is well advised to order your books. I treasure mine, a gift from the now deceased JAZ of the #7 sbt. Chopper

Chopper, The 7E SBT rests easy among its kin.

Well Keith and Jim, I don't recall details of other threads and who called whom what. I don't think I'm selectively responding, and I couldn't care less about trying to "protect" anyone -- only reacted to what I read here. Wish I could recall who once said about name-calling something like "It's the last resort of those who are bankrupt of ideas." You guys aren't those guys, but you can sound like them when you stray from the values, facts and logic that support your views. The bitter emotional stuff gets in the way.

Jay

If she is now a huntress you can put the credit with Senator Orin Hatch for showing her the Pennsylvania long rifle built by the late great Cecil Brooks, a Lancaster County I believe. When she saw it hanging on the wall behind his desk she said she didn't realize how beautiful a firearm could be.

I for one certainly hope Kagan doesn't turn into the Hoplophobe that most expect her to do. I doen't think there's any question of where Ginsberg and Sotomayer are coming from as they are as far left as you can get. It will be poetic justice if Kagan spits in the eye of Obama as far as I'm concerned.

Jay:
I won't repeat some of the names I and others were called on past threads. They were in such poor taste that I asked Dave, the owner, to review the threads which is the ONLY time I have done so. I'm not even sure these threads still exist in their original form as the owner may have edited them out. As near as I can tell one of the worst offenders was either given a long vacation or permanently barred from this forum.
My interest here on a thread such as this one is simple and straight forward. To commend those that support us and condemn those who don't.
The bottom line is the preservation of our 2nd Amendment rights period.
Jim

I'm pretty naive so naturally I would be just the sort who would remember someone somewhere sometime saying that the keeping and bearing of arms gives us a shot at defending the other rights of a free people enumerated in the 1st, 4th, and 6th. We've got the guns (well mostly old doubleguns and the kiddies have their ARs, hahaha) but we don't seem particularly worred about the suspension of rights (vide Patriot Act and the "desire for domestic security") when it would demand that we shut our big mouths and put our collective foot down. Whyzat? More interested in the means than the putative end, I suspect. That's where I smell H Y P O C R I S Y. Stand by for imcoming factoid bombardment!!!!

jack

I'd like to oblige, but I have absolutely no idea what the hell you're trying to say.

The tent is already too small with both sides included in our ever shrinking world of outdoorsmen. We may not have the luxury of splintering the ranks, but it doesn't help for the left side to snipe like Winchester on MASH with unjustified condescension, while offended conservative side fires off salvos of righteous indignation. Takes a little diplomacy to get the best out of both and not the worst?...

The world has moved on, as Roland the Gunslinger said. The putative (accepted or supposed) end of a well-trained militia was, according the founding muthas, the necessary condition for a potentially successful resistance to tyranny (just no faith there in pitchforks and mauls against Brown Bess). What level of training with what "arms" would we need today to promise even the hope of parity with modern armies? Surface to air missles, tactical nukes maybe? So we all know the embattled farmers bit is getting a bit old on the shelf. There is of course the guerilla idea and we've fought enuf of them to know that there's a long term stinger in resistance with minimal armament which exhausts high-tech armies. But we don't want to live like rats so not even the best infantry squad weapon would count for much in the sort of freeze-dried, melodramatic resistance to tyranny which we glory in. Bunch of rhetoricians! I can't believe you're really only playing dumb, Keith.

jack