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Proof Mark? #297774 10/22/12 02:07 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 884 Likes: 1 Happy Valley, Ak. Bob Noble OP Sidelock
OP Bob Noble Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 884 Likes: 1 Happy Valley, Ak.	I have an American gun with BNR and a crown over it. Its marked on both tubes and doth sides of the watertable. What is this proof mark? Last edited by Bob Noble; 10/22/12 05:47 PM. lefeverarms.com

Re: Proof Mark? Bob Noble #297784 10/22/12 02:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 617 North Wales. uk Nick. C Sidelock
Nick. C Sidelock Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 617 North Wales. uk	I've been looking at proof marks today but cannot find the kind you mention. There's BM under a crown for British military and an R under crown for re-proof, that's all I can find up to now. Have you any idea how old your gun is ? I only ask as I believe some U.S. Weapons were brought over to arm the Home guard and other groups because of weapon shortages during ww 2. Could it have been re-proofed for military use over here and eventually found it's way back home in later years ? I'm very probably completely wrong but other than BNP under a crown, that's all I was able to find in my Brit and foreign lists. Edit.. Just spoken to a guy who told me that American shotguns were used in WW 1 and may have military proof stamps on, also that some battlefield repaired guns were re stamped. still may be barking up the wrong tree regarding the marks you mention but even if it's totally unconnected, I learned something new today. Last edited by El Garro; 10/22/12 04:44 PM. Rust never sleeps !

Re: Proof Mark? Bob Noble #297803 10/22/12 05:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 884 Likes: 1 Happy Valley, Ak. Bob Noble OP Sidelock
OP Bob Noble Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 884 Likes: 1 Happy Valley, Ak.	I miss read it. Its BNR under a crown. lefeverarms.com

Re: Proof Mark? Bob Noble #297809 10/22/12 06:37 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,466 Likes: 345 Bozeman, Mt. Daryl Hallquist Sidelock
Daryl Hallquist Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,466 Likes: 345 Bozeman, Mt.	Birmingham Nitro Proof if as I suspect it's a crown over BNP, not BNR. http://www.bakercollectors.com/

Re: Proof Mark? Bob Noble #297819 10/22/12 09:38 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 884 Likes: 1 Happy Valley, Ak. Bob Noble OP Sidelock
OP Bob Noble Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 884 Likes: 1 Happy Valley, Ak.	Daryl I think your right lefeverarms.com

Re: Proof Mark? Bob Noble #297824 10/22/12 10:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,696 Likes: 226 Amarillo, Texas skeettx Sidelock
skeettx Sidelock Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,696 Likes: 226 Amarillo, Texas	See B11 in the link below http://www.shotguns.se/html/uk.html Birmingham 1954-> �BNP� surmounted by a crown. Definitive proof. USAF RET 1971-95

Re: Proof Mark? Bob Noble #297842 10/23/12 10:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,393 BC west coast Mike Bonner Sidelock
Mike Bonner Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,393 BC west coast	On an American gun? Pics??

Re: Proof Mark? Bob Noble #297898 10/24/12 07:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,574 Likes: 167 Iowa L. Brown Sidelock
L. Brown Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 11,574 Likes: 167 Iowa	Mike, every now and then an American gun does show up having undergone British proof. Probably the case here.

Re: Proof Mark? Bob Noble #297914 10/24/12 10:30 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,696 Likes: 226 Amarillo, Texas skeettx Sidelock
skeettx Sidelock Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 5,696 Likes: 226 Amarillo, Texas	Remember the Lend/Lease guns, some were returned to the US owners after WWII and sometimes that took a bit of time and I bet they were Britished proofed. Mike USAF RET 1971-95

Re: Proof Mark? Bob Noble #297922 10/24/12 11:53 AM
Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 617 North Wales. uk Nick. C Sidelock
Nick. C Sidelock Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 617 North Wales. uk	What make is the gun Bob ? May be able to point us in the right direction and possibly put a rough date to it aswell. It does point to the Birmingham mark mentioned above. Are there any signs of the British military broad arrow stamped anywhere on it ? Some articles on lend/lease http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-397897.html Last edited by El Garro; 10/24/12 12:57 PM. Rust never sleeps !

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