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Looking at a gun that has Teague lined barrels. I have been told there were problems that developed from this process and to beware.
Any body have any knowledge of problems with these barrels?

I understand that any repairs (i.e. dent removal, rib relaying) etc are near impossible - and that there may be longer term problems. Not quite sure what these are, corrosion between layers? Heat damaging by expansion/contraction?

I believe the process is now discontinued.

Steve Bertram was their rep in the US. Maybe he would be willing to share just what the problem might have been...Geo

I have heard of problems with the adhesive used in the process. Reportedly, there have been instances of the tube breaking loose and moving.

I remember reading about Teague lining and the high prices they charged for the service about 7 years ago and thinking "Really? will it work?"

No news until now and I wonder if there will be more forthcoming.

IT was a wonderful idea that many people had tried and failed to do . All credit to Nigel Teague for perfecting the process . Problems have arisen that has made Nigel discontinue doing it .
In my personal opinion it was fantastic idea that made an old gun shootable whilst retaining its "originality" but I could never see the barrels standing up to heavy or prolonged use .

I have a gun that was teague lined and have been shooting it for some time now with out any issues. Now i am getting concerned , does anyone have prof of these problems?

I PM'd Paul but will chime in here on this thread too. From what I know, the vast majority of guns that went through the process were successful with no problems what so ever. While I was the representative we did have one failure after proof where the outer barrel had a thin spot and actually became de-laminted from the liner. I refunded the client's money on that particular job. When I inquired as to how often these type of issues had arisen in the past, I was told only a couple of times in more than one thousand sets of barrels. How true that is I can not say.
Steve

I had a set of very thin Damascus barrels lined by Teague a number of years ago and shot the gun quite a lot for several years without any problems. I thought the work was beautiful. The fact that it was lined was undetectable. I was very satisfied. I sold the gun awhile go, but not because I had any problems with the barrel lining. I thought it was bad and sad news that Teague stopped doing the lining work.

Hi I would just like to say that the direction Nigel Teague has taken in his method of restoring Damascus barrels for re use is just the start of things to come. It may be as far as he wishes to go using this method but in time some other person or company may take up where he as left off or he may start again in another direction. I do admire his perseverance in getting as far as he did in producing a practical and commercial way of internal lining a shot gun barrel, in the face of all the constraints he had to contend with. Cost was a very big hurdle because not every gun owner could afford to spend cash on a gun with Damascus barrels no matter how beautiful they appeared to be.
Now just food for thought my circle of gun using Engineer friends in conversations over glasses of the �Amber Nectar� on how to keep alive guns using Damascus patterned barrels after a days shooting came up with the following, though not all practical as yet but in time who knows!
Top of the list was lining original Damascus barrels with a Titanium alloy when the right alloy comes along but the high cost would be very prohibitive.
Next was a method of veneering steel tubes with a thin surface layer of Damascus patterned Steel/Iron for new guns, though this as it turned out was not a totally new idea.
And the most approved outlandish idea of all was to copy a three dimensional image of the barrels original Damascus pattern, then sleeve in the conventional way then restore the pattern you had previously copied back on the replacement tubes by laser etching. It is a little outlandish but it has my vote because of the cost aspect and it uses tried and trusted technology with room for improvements. Though the down side is the original barrels would be lost for ever though the up side was that you could have a new gun with a pseudo Damascus patterned barrel for little or no extra cost.
Are there any other ideas readers may have?