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This "wall hanger" 16 ga. percussion sxs shotgun was my great-grandpa's. He died in 1931 at age 90. Dad found it in the attic when they tore the old house down about 35 years ago. The stock had been painted orange! Barrels are 37-1/2" long, and the stock has "modern" dimensions.

My friend John, who repairs vintage hammer guns and makes reproduction muzzle loading flintlock and percussion firearms from scratch, "boiled" the metal parts in water to form a black oxide surface, buffed them and applied Renaissance brand microcrystalline wax to protect the metal parts. John found a right hammer in his shop to replace the one that was missing. It almost matches the original left hammer.

While I was stripping off the orange paint, the stock which was was cracked almost in two, broke apart while I was working on it. I glued it back together as best I could and "pinned" the break with a 1-inch long wood screw. John said he would have used a wood pin, but I didn't think it would make any difference since it will never be shot. I then applied 3 coats of Birchwood Casey Tru-Oil. It definitely looks a lot better than it did, and I plan to hang it over the fireplace.

Interestingly, the right hammer can be half and fully cocked and fired with the front trigger. The left hammer will not stay cocked because the internal Sear detents are completely worn down. I wonder if the right hammer was lost very early in its life and GGPa and others only shot the left barrel.

There is nothing stamped on top of the barrels. The number 38428 is stamped on the bottom of the barrels and the end of the frame. According to John, the proof marks on the bottom of the barrels indicate that GGPa's barrels are Belgium. He thinks it was probably made between 1860 and 1880. Can anyone confirm that from the following photos?







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Your friend John's assessment is correct. The gun was made in Belgium, and his dating is probably pretty close. It will look nice hanging over your fireplace, enjoy.


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Thanks! Does the 16.6 in the 6th photo from the top indicate bore diameter? 16.6 millimeters would be .654 inch.

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that sounds about right.

your friend did a good job of cleaning.


keep it simple and keep it safe...
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The gun actually could be much later. The Belgian trade was producing all manner of percussion singles and doubles for their colonial trade, and A.F. Stoeger was selling them up the WW-II time frame.

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My dad, who died last year at age 95, always said it was his grandpa's (my great-grandpa's) gun. GGPa died in 1931 at age 90, so we really don't know when he might have bought it or when it was last shot. Dad was born in 1917 on the same farm that GGPa bought in 1893, and dad said he never shot it.

We don't know if GGPa bought it new or used from a hardware store or from a neighbor. Regardless, it obviously had been shot a lot since the left trigger sear is completely worn, stock and forearm are cracked and the barrels are at least 1/16" off face. Dad said that he was told that a hole had developed between the barrels or chambers to such an extent that it would double fire. No way to know if that is true or not.

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The stock wood appears to be European Beech. Lagopus.....

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Originally Posted By: lagopus
The stock wood appears to be European Beech. Lagopus.....


My friend thought it might be Beech wood. Thank you for confirming it.

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I just thought it was a bit unusual to see a muzzle loader from that period stocked in beech. I wonder if has been done later.

By the way, nice part of the world you live in. I have been lucky to visit Williamsburg on two separate occasions. Loved the place. Lagopus.....

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Researcher is of course correct, but at least the barrel proof marks are pre-1893 and possibly pre-1878 as the NON POUR BALLE (choked unrifled bores) mark is not present.

PeteM's list of Belgian maker's marks doesn't have a 'VC'. I can't interpret the 'N something' on the right barrel
http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_Trade_Marks.html

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