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Joined:  Sep 2014 Posts: 22 Boxlock |  
| OP   Boxlock 
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For you Browning experts out there, did Felix Funken engrave many pigeon grade guns. I have not seen any myself but I don't get around a lot of higher grade Brownings except by internet. |  |  |  
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|   Sidelock 
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i no longer have Ned Schwing's book on the superposed but my recollection is he wrote that being head of the engraving department Funken had the prerogative of signing any gun that left the shop, and there were so many "Funken" guns that it wouldn't have been possible for him to have done them all.  however, there's certainly no reason he couldn't have done it.  I've only owned one pigeon and it wasn't signed period. |  |  |  
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| OP   Boxlock 
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I have also read that some of those guns may have faked signatures in attempts to boost the value.Browning history letters do not mention engravers as I'm told.
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|   Sidelock 
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I had one from the 50'sbill
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|   Sidelock 
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I have one, 1957,signed twice by him. 
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| OP   Boxlock 
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All other things being equal,(condition of gun, metal, wood etc.) how much of a premium would you expect a Funken signed gun to bring over a unsigned gun? 50% or more? |  |  |  
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|   Sidelock 
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I don't think it would add that much,a signed gun may add little over a non signed one and may someone wants a Funken bad enough to put a small premium over that but not 50%. I have seen Olympians signed by 3 engravers and I don't think it added much more to the hammer price. 
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I agree, very nice! I think the Diana grade is my favorite among the Brownings. Under high magnification the engraving almost looks crude though. |  |  |  
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|   Sidelock 
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Funken, Vracken , and Barton were the best names that I can remember. They brought praise but very little extra money.
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