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This type of stuff kind of irritates me. The historical errors, and especially when an auctioneer "talks down" vintage guns. Although, I can't complain when it results in my being able to buy guns at very reasonable prices.
Here's an example of what I'm talking about, a description from an upcoming auction:
This "New Baker" Model 1886 Field 12 Ga Hammer Double Barrel Shotgun was produced by the Baker Gun & Forging Co. of Batavia, N.Y. They were in business from 1886 to 1933 and made inexpensive damascus barreled hammer shotgun before switching to modern steel hammerless guns. This example is in good condition with fair to good bores. One hammer has a modern replacement screw as does the lower tang. Basically a nice wall-hanger now.
I prefer wood to plastic, leather to nylon, waxed cotton to Gore-Tex, and split bamboo to graphite.
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About 4 years ago I bought a Winchester Model 23 (20ga Light Duck), over the Internet, from an Auction House in CA. It was Astronaut Wally Schirra's shotgun and consigned by his family. The auction house listed the Winchester pad, that came on the Light Duck models, as an after market pad. They also listed the chokes as Full & Full, which is how the Light Duck model (Ltd Ed of 500 - 1985) came from the factory. Apparently Wally had added a full set of screw in chokes to make the gun more versatile. When I received the gun there were chokes in both barrels and the additional / extra chokes (along with the choke wrench) were sitting in the accessory compartment.
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A friend bought a single shot rifle from a midwest auction house. No mention of any problem in the description. When it arrived the quarter rib was packaged separately from the barrel. A northeast auction houses idea of light pitting. 
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I like when they fail to mention and just happen to miss showing in all photographs a crack or repaired crack in a stock. Even worse one gun I emailed a question confirming that there were not cracks or repaired cracks in the stock. Amazed to see the UPS man had repaired a here to for unseen crack in transit. There is no substitute to examining the gun in person.
I understand not every auction person will have a vast and encyclopedia knowledge base about everything that come to them for sale. But to pretend to know things, which are easily found on the internet. and to be so wrong is just inexcusable. Better to remain silent than show how little you know sometimes. I guess from their viewpoint they are just trying to spur interest and it is up to the buyer to determine that what they say is correct.
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The best thing is when they take dark photos of the gun to hide imperfections.
David
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