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I've been given Dogtra-500 by my friend proffi dog trainer about 2 weeks ago and I have to say this thing works just great, when you know, when and how to push button. In few days only I trained my dog didn't react to wrong small birds and crows and we had great time to study snipes and double snipes. He points snipe on pic, but snipe flew away allready, that's why the point is not so intense.
This is dual Irish Setter, which becomes more and more popular on this part of Earth. They are more healthy, very energetic in fields, great sence of nose (he can feel snipe from 50 yards), great hunters, very comfortable at home and most important they look like real Irish Red Setters!

The picture of your dog is good enough that it would look good engraved on the bottom of a double. Don't know it I would want the collar in it but that is one nice looking dog.
Regards, Gordon

Finally, an Irish setter in the field again---and looking good. I did not think I would live long enough to see it. Wonderful, Geno.

Geno, congratulations!

A very beautiful looking Irish Setter. They are great dogs. Yours looks to be in top form. A dog like that deserves to hunt Capercaillie.

Pete

Geno, Beautiful dog!

Please explain the term dual Irish setter? I Know of some good hunting lines of red setters that are making some in-roads with hunter's here in the USA.

Are there good hunting blood lines avaliable over there for export?

Just curious I've always loved the look's of them and would like to try one if I could find some really good hunting lineage.
Thanks,Paul

Paul,

Dual means both good hunting and show results. In early days of 20-th century all English pointing dogs were dual dogs. Then these dogs been splitted into two separate groups: field trial and show dogs.
Today both trends are radical and especially in US, field trial dogs are very small and stand very far away from original standart and US show IRS are hypertrophy and just huge in size, they look like toys and most of them lost ability for hunting.
There are several good breeders in UK who breed dual English Pointers today, I saw these dogs here and they are just great, they win Intl shows and some of them are Field Trial Champs at the same time. One of this pointers is in my own city right now (pic1) and his son pic2 - all-Russian field trial champion 2006.
Dual Gordon Show and FT champ - pic3, Dual Engl. Setter - pic4.
What about dual IRS - we just began to work in this direction and collect all information about dual IRS allover the world. There is one very good dual IRS in Canada at the moment, who was 2-nd at some main Canadian amateur trials, unfortunatly I got no this owner address disposed, but I could search for it, if you want.

Thanks Geno, I see that your use of the term dual is the same as our's being both field and show.

I love seeing pictures of the pointing breeds that have been bred to stay true to their origins and what the breed should be.

Here in America it's seems we have to change everything to suit are magnum mentality. Thanks for the pictures of the pointers with their tails and bodies streched out flat the way the breed is suppost to do,rather than the straight up high tail that the American breeders have developed.

I've been involed with Epanuel Bretons here for several years and love them simply for the fact that we haven't ruined the breed here. My three EB's are either imported or are first generation from Imports. Do you have many Breton's in Russia? Do your field trial's and breed standards follow the FCI or another standard?

Thanks again for the pictures! You made my day!
Paul

Paul, I agree with you! Here´s couple of pictures of my pointer from Finland. Electric collars are illegal in Finland, so we must train our dogs in "old fashioned" way.

Pokslok, Thanks for the pictures! You have a very nice pointer. Is that a cow and calf raindeer/caribo in the background of the second picture?

I love the last picture,very seldom do you see a picture of a dog in full run that's not streached out. You can sure see he runs with his head high and nose in the wind!

Pokslok, in your third photo is your versatile dog headed out to retrieve that caribou across the channel?