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The first picture of the underside of the barrels appears to show a crolle pattern underneath the blueing, and the barrels do NOT carry smokeless proof. The gun was made 1898-before lettre annale marks starting in 1921; almost surely prior to WWI.
The 16.8 bore = .661" = standard 16g
The right barrel could have less than .008" constriction and not be marked as to mm.
The left choke is 16.3 = .642" = indeed Imp. Mod.

The action body was probably originally case colored, and the BTFE would be quite atypical for a Belgian gun of that era

The gun needs to be evaluated by a double gun specialist smith, and there are a number of excellent choices in Ill. and Wisconsin

If you'll click on 'Edit' you can delete the SKB images from your posts

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Thank you for your comments. I did have the gun evaluated at a local small gun shop who was amazed I bought it for what I did. He felt I would never take a beating on it but I would love a evaluation from a reputable double gun shop any sugestions in the area would be appreciated! Perhaps I am slow tonight but cannot find edit to take the two pics of the skb 200 e out ? Thanks for your post! Still very little info on the debrus guns other than the cornel publication that i have! I would also love to know the engraver name perhaps a mark on the gun indicates this but eludes my eye? At very least a nice gun for the generations to follow to hold!

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Incidentally bye my blue book o gun values! The Mark bearing a R with small crown above , they say is Belgium smokeless proof! It is right there in pic and on both barrels as is the blackpowder proof? Im no expert at all but unless Fjestads book is wrong it is a smokeless proof as well???

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Originally Posted By: Kwalley
Incidentally bye my blue book o gun values! The Mark bearing a R with small crown above , they say is Belgium smokeless proof! It is right there in pic and on both barrels as is the blackpowder proof? Im no expert at all but unless Fjestads book is wrong it is a smokeless proof as well???


What I'm seeing is an R under a star (which is an inspector's mark), not a crown. And R under a crown would only apply to rifled barrels, not shotguns. The mark you'd want to find for smokeless proof of a shotgun is the one right above that in my Blue Book: PV (which stands for poudre vive, or smokeless powder) under a rampant lion. That mark applies to ALL guns, including shotguns, from 1903 on.

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