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I haven't posted here in awhile but I need some help from the great vault of information on this board.
I came across an interesting 16ga boxlock today while visiting the taxidermist I use. He knows I like doubleguns & asked me if I wanted to look at one he is thinking of selling. Obviously I couldn't pass on the opportunity to look at a SxS.
What he brought out rather surprised me by the overall quality of the gun he handed me. I hadn't heard of the manufacturer before but could tell it resembled many Germanic type's of shotguns. I.E Boxlock, greener type cross bolt, bolster shapes etc.
I'm in need of any information I can get on this one. The top rib is inscribed in gold as follows. " Skacel Jos. V. Kromerizi " It has ejectors, a straight grip, DT with rose & scroll engraving and Bohler steel barrels.
Please give me any information you might know about this maker & a guess of what the value might be. I know with out pictures it's impossible to determine the value but an in the ballpark guess might help.
Thanks,
Paul
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I haven't posted here in awhile but I need some help from the great vault of information on this board.
I came across an interesting 16ga boxlock today while visiting the taxidermist I use. He knows I like doubleguns & asked me if I wanted to look at one he is thinking of selling. Obviously I couldn't pass on the opportunity to look at a SxS.
What he brought out rather surprised me by the overall quality of the gun he handed me. I hadn't heard of the manufacturer before but could tell it resembled many Germanic type's of shotguns. I.E Boxlock, greener type cross bolt, bolster shapes etc.
I'm in need of any information I can get on this one. The top rib is inscribed in gold as follows. " Skacel Jos. V. Kromerizi " It has ejectors, a straight grip, DT with rose & scroll engraving and Bohler steel barrels.
Please give me any information you might know about this maker & a guess of what the value might be. I know with out pictures it's impossible to determine the value but an in the ballpark guess might help.
Thanks,
Paul Bohler or Boehler?
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Böhler or Boehler; es lo mismo.
Cheers,
Raimey
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I would not doubt that it is a quality piece knowing Skácel, a sleeper if you will. Skácel was the pre-WWII version of Otto Reif of Suhl in Bucovice & Kromerizi(maybe Lubná, Kromeríži District?), etc. What might prompt me to ferret out additional information would be the number & location of cities where he employed his tactics.
Cheers,
Raimey
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I would not doubt that it is a quality piece knowing Skácel, a sleeper if you will. Skácel was the pre-WWII version of Otto Reif of Suhl in Bacoubice & Kromerizi(maybe Lubná, Kromeríži District?), etc. What might prompt me to ferret out additional information would be the number & location of cities where he employed his tactics.
Cheers,
Raimey
rse Great information Thanks!! From my basic research it looks like Jos Skacel was plying his trade in Kromeriz Czechoslovakia & the gun is probably based on a pre-war Simson action. The gun feels very nice in hand & probably comes in around the 6lb mark. Here's a link with pictures to the post I put on the Parker site about this one. This might help with identifying this one. http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?p=188799#post188799
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Looks like he passed thru Bacoubice, Kromeríži & Pardubice at a minimum. I'd be a bit surprised if the components were sourced from Simon. My 1st guess would be Liege, then Ferlach & then bringing up the rear would be Suhl. But anything is possible. Can you forward the images to me as I do not have the privilege to view @ the Parker site?
Cheers,
Raimey
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Raimey,
I've tried sending the pictures to the email in your profile. They keep getting kicked back. Please PM me with your email address & I'll send you the pic's.
Regards,
Paul
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    Skácel Jos. v Kromeríži Böhler Blitz Stahl Cheers, Raimey rse
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