doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Any one see an early Fox like this one?

Anyone ever see an early Fox with a stock like this one? The serial number shows 1910. It is supposed to be a C grader. Replacement or what?

I don't see a Monte Carlo stock offered as an option in the 1905 or 6 catalogues, but from the first "Campfire" catalogue of 1907 onward they are offered for $7.50 extra. It was still a $7.50 option in the 1939 catalogue. That is an awefully plain piece of wood for an early C-Grade, and the C-/CE-Grade normally had checkered stock cheeks. That kind of looks like a stock off a later A-/AE-Grade. Maybe it was back to the factory at some time for a restock and the owner only sprung for an A-/AE- quality stock. A Callahan letter, if the card is still available, will tell how it originally left the factory, but wouldn't cover any subsequent rework.

I saw a Sterlingworth at an auction in Ohio last week with the same type of stock. Although it was most likely original, it had a "aftermarket" or added on, look about it. The gun sold for crazy money, so I must have missed something in it.

Those photos are so bad that it might be an add on MC. Hard to tell but it looks like a straight line about where you would expect to see such a repair. Anyways that is a rough looking C grade to my eyes. Unless it sells for less than I expect it would be a real money pit to make it right. Could use new stock, for end and barrels rust blued. I do not mind the lack of case color but why carry a ugly gun? Just because it is a early Fox?

I'm after a Fox graded gun early one with long bbls. and was watching this one on gunbroker until it went above my budget. Just curious about the configuration. The stock is very plain wood but I was going to rewood it anyway for live birds Thanks Researcher for the info on factory Mc stocks.

The purchaser has expressed interest in requesting a Callahan letter of provenance to clear up the issues of originality. The pictures do not indicate whether the monte carlo is a pieced in affair. Many early C Grades have painfully plain wood, but often (usually?) Juglans Regia. It is difficult to determine the species of wood from the seller's pictures. The wood to metal fit and the Jostam pad are "clues".

I agree with Jon, looks like a line about between the top and second vent on the recoil bad. Looks light/dark.

When I saw it on gunbroker I expanded the photos looking for a jointing line. I still don't see one.

I had number 2005 C Grade as I recall. It, too, had plain wood, but I think info was missing on that serial no. range in the Fox records. 2005 had interesting engraving with more detail and no animals compared to the common C grade.

What early C-Grades have you been looking at, Eightbore? Most I've encountered have knockout wood. It got a lot plainer by that very late 1920s two-barrel set Peter was marketting a decade ago! But, even that gun was better then this stick!! Here is a 1909 --



and a 1913 --