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I am working up loads to try and take a deer with this one:  I can get nice clean groups with the rifle, but I cannot get them on target. It shoots several feet high. With the rear sight in the lowest position, I can't get my head low enough to get the bead fully down... but it is close and still 18 in high at 25 yards. Any one have a thought or solution? Mine is to install a Marble's tang sight. My question is two fold... anyone know what would fit? any good clean least obtrusive/ damaging ways to mount one? Thanks in advance 
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What a beautiful gun. Bobby
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Get a higher front sight (quite a bit higher).
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If you cannot get your head down for the factory rear sight, I don't think a tang rear sight will help that. Raising the front sight seems the most obvious .
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I will send a picture- I agree with the logic. It already has the tallest front sight I have seen. 3/8 - 1/2 inch if I am guessing correctly.
I don't currently feel good enough to be aiming at the front knee!
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OK, try this, shoot a lighter bullet, the bullet will exit the rising barrel sooner and therefore shoot lower Are you shooting a 30-30? 32-40? What weight bullet? 170? Then try a 150. If not, What cartridge,
Can you post a picture of how the front sight is affixed?
One of the easiest options is to make a front sight out of a silver dime and then dress it down to the needed height.
Thanks Mike
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A very nice old TBG Co gun there Friend, and what a thrill it would be to take a whitetail using that piece. These guys are correct, your best alternative is to raise the height of the front sight; and as all the examples I've seen are dovetailed into the top rib, finding a replacement to work shouldn't be too difficult a challenge. I would strongly encourage not using a tang sight, as doing so would require drilling after-market holes into the top tang; and if you retain the sliding shotgun safety along with the new sight, you'd be forced to notch the comb of the stock to get enough set-back for the sight base. I know of one very nice and rare little 20-bore Hollenbeck to which such a tang sight was added; and not only did the installer screw-up the top tang and stock, it looks completely out of place on the gun. On the other hand, I've seen one example of a Hollenbeck drilling that featured a factory tang sight. That sight was inserted into a very neatly formed/sculpted hole in the stock just ahead of the comb. It was not attached to the gun, but was a separate piece designed to inserted for use when needed; with the result that it did not conflict with the flowing lines of the gun when not in place. I don't own a Hollenbeck drilling (yet), but find these guns most intriguing. One of our members owns drilling number 7; and some of its features are a skeleton butt, tubular cartridge trap located in the checkered butt end of its stack, sculpted barrel lumps very similar to those found on highest grade Lefever guns, and a very long trigger guard bow that also covers the rifle barrel cocking lever. I do however own a rare Hollenbeck Gun Company double gun; and although this old gal saw lots of use and needs TLC, she's all there, has excellent 30" bores, no after-market alterations, and remains in good shooting condition. This gun is #28, is a 12-gauge, is not grade marked, is English stocked, features almost 100% engraving coverage with game scenes (pointing dogs or either side, and covey scene on trigger guard bow); and weighs in a 7 lbs./6 oz. It also has a few other neat features such as finely checkered triggers, "dimples" at end the muzzle ends of its barrel ribs very similar to higher grade LC's, and highly polished (plated?) lock work.
I wish you good hunting, and please post a pic of this gun and your whitetail deer bagged with same.
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I solved my iron sight problem on a Sauer combination gun I have with one of these. < www.SeeAllOpenSight.com> The three leaf sights are still there but are useless to me due to eyesight. The SeeAll sight works fine...Geo
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I have versions in 32-40, 30-30, 25-20, and this 25-35. They all have their pros and cons and none are particularly "easy" to shoot. I would prefer a bigger bore ultimately but as this one is the nicest of the bunch it was where I was hoping to dedicate the time to get it right. Interesting George- a little not 1905 but I am interested. Will it pinch the top rib in a non-marring , removable fashion? How do you think it will affect the shotgun shooting ? More eye candy: 
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Marks21, Try it at 100yds and see where it shoots. Unless the gun has been changed(or maybe front sight bead broken off), it should shoot close enough with ammo that duplicates original bullet weight and velocity. Also, a drilling will "walk"(usually, up) if the rifle barrel is hot and shotgun barrels at ambient temp. You should not rest the barrels on the front rest, they will shoot away from the rest. You should hold the drilling in your hands, like you would hold it in the field. It is OK to rest your hand on the rest, which is set high enough to sit upright. Mike
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