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Joined:  Aug 2007 Posts: 12,109 Likes: 381 Sidelock |  
|   Sidelock 
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No worries Dave. Not sure if the end card is still clear as I purchased several cases some time back.  But after the info is worn off the cartridges, you can look @ the shot to see about what size is contained therein.  If you attend any gatherings where RST is present, you can pick up a few odd boxes and try them.
 Another possibility is Gamebore, which has partnered or has been absorbed by Kent(or vice versa) & Gamebore uses that Diamond shot, I believe.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Raimey
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Joined:  Jan 2002 Posts: 7,725 Likes: 129 Sidelock |  
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I know the question is about RSTs, but I wonder why an Elsie with good barrels and a new stock wouldn't be just fine with off the Walmart counter 2 3/4" winchester, federal,  or remington shells? Lots cheaper to feed and much greater shell selection...Geo |  |  |  
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Joined:  Dec 2012 Posts: 3,637 Likes: 1069 Sidelock |  
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For grouse I use their 7/8 ounce 7 1/2s followed by the 1-ounce sixes.  For pheasants, I would likely use the 1-ounce 6s, followed by the 5s. 
Last edited by Lloyd3; 10/19/17 09:01 AM.
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In my old Bonehill SXS I use both Polywad and RST. The gun is a 12 ga. I use the Polywad English 2 1/2" 1 oz. Spread-Rs in #6 in the right tube and the RST 2 3/4" 1 1/8 OZ. #5 in the left. I am very happy with the combination and stick with it. I went to Polywad spreaders because RST did not load a spreader with #6. They only went up to #7 and after trying them I was not happy with the killing ability of the #7s. The larger #6 seems to do a much better job.  Why not contact Polywad and see if they have the 16 ga. 1 oz. shell in their English line.  The English is a 2 1/2" shell. |  |  |  
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Joined:  Jan 2002 Posts: 11,574 Likes: 167 Sidelock |  
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16 Ga. • 2 1/2" • Paper-Lite • Vel. 1200 • 1 oz. Load - Box
 Above would be similar but it doesn't say Roll Crimped?
 
 What are the Copper loads all about?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Raimey
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Raimey, the issue with a lot of copper or nickel shot is that it's just washed on.  Doesn't do much to improve the quality of the shot, make it harder, etc.  I don't know whether RST's copper shot loads fall into that category.  But since I was ordering a flat, including loads for grouse and woodcock as well as pheasants, figured I might as well include a couple boxes. One advantage of copper shot:  It's easier to see and remove when you clean the bird. |  |  |  
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|   Sidelock 
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Dave if the gun was sent to Buck and the chambers were lengthened before, you should have had him glas bed the locks and this way you could be shooting most 16 gauge loads without having to pay a premium.The chambers were changed to 2 3/4" sometime in late 1930 or early 1940 as I have a 1939 that is still 2 9/16". The early 2 3/4" chambered guns had that written on the barrel's water table below the serial number.
 
 I'm not sure when they changed the bore size to .660, but I have a 1927 Specialty that still has .650 bores.
 
 The 16 gauge is my favorite.
 
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The Hunter Arms factory drawings included in Brophy's book on LC Smiths show a standard bore diameter of .652 for the 16ga.  The drawing is dated April 1938. |  |  |  
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David, I failed to mention that Buck did indeed glass bed the action. The gun is fairly light at just under 6 1/2 pounds, so I thought I'd go easy on it with the RST loads. That said, I'd just as soon shoot the 1oz. Herter's and Federal loads I already have in it. |  |  |  
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