A couple of years back I went to my first and only " tower " shoot. After lunch we went out with our dogs to put up the ones missed. One bird, after everyone missed it, I shot it with BP in my hammergun. It was one of my proudest shots. Oh, my Wirehair Pointing Griffon had pointed and retrieved it. I never spent a minute training him, but that day he pointed 13 birds and retrieved all of them to me no matter who shot it, and went back out hunting. Everyone kept commenting how well he was trained. His name was Remington, the female Beretta. They're both gone now. Our new German shorthair is named Parker.