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Tim,
I just wanted everyone to know that it is your fault, but I had the desire to buy a pump gun this week. A few months back Tim and I traded a very clean 20ga Ithaca model 37 that I found locally for a beater 12ga Fox Sterlingworth with great bores. All in all a fair trade for both of us. I wanted to try my luck at stocking a double which did turn out very well by the way, but at the same time it got me thinking about these vintage pump guns. I have rid myself of all my 870 remingtons and still own a couple of Browning BPS pump guns, but didn't have any vintage pumps. Then, I walked into the same local gunshop and what did I see sitting on the shelf but a nice 20ga Winchester model 12 1941 vintage. The gun is all original with some carry wear in front of the reciever. The gun is honest and the price was right.

Thanks Tim for the bug,

Loren

Who else has this problem?

Me, which is particularly embarrassing, given my nickname on this chatroom! I currently have an Ithaca 37 and a Remington 31, both in 20-gauge, and a Winchester 12 Skeet gun in 16-gauge. A few others have come and gone, including a Model 12 Duck gun I miss. TT

I guess it's not a "problem", maybe a fascination but pump guns indeed, especially:

Ithaca model 37's, the early ones with the solid rib; Winchester pump .22's, as in model 1890's, 1906's, 62's and 61's and an early Win M12 20 gauge with a solid rib.

When I do a mental count, gee, maybe I do have a "problem".

Bill Jolliff

Loren, The past couple months I picked up a Win 97, like my grandfathers, and a Win 42, which is a real "kick". Have a Win mdl.12/16 and Rem 31/16 on hold. All Classic guns and deserve a place along side our vintage SXS's. Randy

Loren-

Neat shotgun, and if that is your idea of a problem you are indeed blessed. I was looking for one just like the one you found when I got distracted and purchased a 1959 M12 Featherweight in 12 gauge (no regrets by the way). While the SxS is my favorite, there is a place for the repeater and I have no use for the semi-automatics (owned several and became disenchanted with them in short order) and of the pump guns the M12 is the king in my book, I owned a M-37 and I could not warm up to it and I currently own an 870 Express that does all the really dirty work (deer hunting and steel shot), but for the sheer joy of shooting, next to the SxS the M12 is my favorite. Enjoy yours!

Doug

Problem? What problem? I still shoot my Dad's M31 matt rib gun as my primary duck gun, have a 31L 20 gauge as a wet weather grouse gun, a Browning Model 12 repop in 28 ga, a really swell 99.9% M42 factory vent rib and a 3 1/2" 870 plastic stocker which has to be the roughest, most inelegant gun I'll ever own, but when Bass Pro was selling them new for $199, I couldn't let it go.

Yep, the Model 12 thing'll get ya. Couple of years ago I saw a 16 ga. M 1912 at a gun show while I was looking for a gun for my nephew. Nice, tight gun, marked cyl. choke on the barrel, not messed with at all. I lowballed an offer because it wasn't in the budget, the guy all but cussed me, but I didn't get 15 feet away before he called me back and took $25 over the lowball.

Gotta feed it short shells, but the thing balances like a double and patterns nicely and I wouldn't take twice what I paid for it!

Nothing wrong with those short chambered small gauge model 12s....nothing at all........

From the serial number this gun was made in 1915. I've killed woodcock with it and I might take it up north this year and try to get a grouse with it. Something special about hunting with a gun that's over 90 years old.

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