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Had a blast last opening day shooting my 20Ga BSS at ducks. I had some older bismuth I bought on a close out. Thinking about shooting it again this year. I hear both sides on steel shot in these guns. I am sure target size steel would be fine, I know others who have done it for years in 12ga. What is the consensus here?
I also have an Ithaca/skb 20 ga. It is the years when they were imported by Ithaca, black Crome outside, chrome plate inside. Any thoughts on this one?
Ultimately I have to move out of CA even if I want to shoot doves with these guns. Many more guns too....guess I should just move...but my duck club is in Los Banos CA...one of the things that may make me stay when I retire
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I used an Ithaca/SKB Mod.100 in 12 ga. M/F for a number of years shooting seaducks. Shot at least 1000 rounds of # 2's. No perceptible damage to the gun.
Favorite shell for that gun was Remington 2 3/4" Nitro Mag.
I guess at this point I should say that I would not recommend shooting any steel through those M/F chokes.
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I have used a 12 ga, BSS for a lot of years with steel 3s and 4s for ducks. It is my go to duck gun, actually. It is a 30 incher, which originally had M and F chokes. Since it did not have a barrel selector, and I wanted to shoot it in S x S sporting clays competition, I had the left barrel opened to the exact same constriction and the right, which was .018". I have shot a lot of steel through it with no barrel or choke damage whatsoever.  SRH
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Hi, when my oldest son was younger, I gifted him my 20ga BSS and he used it for everything. I did however have choke tubes that were okay for steel installed by Carlson. With the tubes I never worried about any damage to the bbls. Just something to think about.
Stan, that's a great picture of you!!!!
Good Luck!
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Well . . . those guns came out of Japan. The steel shot recommendation on Parker Reproductions, also made in Japan, was that you shouldn't shoot steel through a full choke barrel. I think Stan's choice is a reasonable one: Mod (or more open) should be fine. Those guns are neither real old nor real delicate. And I don't think we've heard any horror stories about ring bulges (or worse) as a result of shooting steel through modern Japanese doubles--although staying away from the steel shot/full choke combo seems a reasonable caution.
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Looking for honest answers from doers, not just talkers.
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That kinda lets you out don't it Mr. Clown
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That kinda lets you out don't it Mr. Clown jOe - current post total 11855 Larry - current post total 9991 Looks like jOe is winning the battle of “talkers”.
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Another thread hijacked with nothing to contribute but personal attacks. Wow!
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My practice is to shoot Bismuth in my doubles with a full choke and steel only in the ones with modified or more open chokes. Browning does not recommend steel in any of their Belgian guns. I agree with Larry on the Japanese guns...Geo
I should have added that I do not shoot steel in any of my damascus guns. In addition I only shoot steel in post WW-2 age guns. That is probably conservative but that's what I do for what its worth.
Last edited by Geo. Newbern; 08/28/18 09:25 AM. Reason: added final par.
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I know a fellow in the US who has been coming to the great white north every fall for years to hunt waterfowl. All he has ever used is a BSS and steel shot has done it no damage. Don't know what it has for choke constrictions.
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