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I am a bit lost. I know exactly how the Baker ejectors work but I don't know what those pins are for. Each side only has 3 components -
1) the ejector box, which is visible in the photo above and also acts as the ejector tripper.
2) the ejector kicker, which is the bit that strikes the end of the extractors. This also has a spring guide (tail) attached which runs nearly the length of the ejector box.
3) the spring, which is enclosed within the box and around the tail of the ejector kicker.
Where were those pins located?
There is an explanation here https://www.vintageguns.co.uk/magazine/the-baker-ejector
Since you have the forend iron off, it is very easy to disassemble the ejectors. You just have to drive the cross-pin out that the ejector boxes pivot on and carefully push them out, keeping in mind that they are under tension.
Keep the pictures coming and we will collectively get this sorted out...

Agree on the pins. Where are they in the ejectors? They are probably a modification. Usually just the three parts. Also agree that you'll get this sorted out. Very satisfying to get old guns back in action.

I figured the pins are a home made affair. There is a hole in each end of the ejector box and there was a pin in each of the them. They fell out when I removed the ejector mechanism. I could not see their purpose and you can see where they have been coming out of the box and pushing against the forearm. I think maybe somebody put the pins in there as a guide rod for the coil springs for some reason. They look like cut off nails. I will post some pics when I get back in.

It is an interesting gun. My FP lacks ejectors but has a bit more engraving on the action and the barrel with a tang safety and a few other variations. Apparently, you could get them made to order. Mine was lettered and made in 1903 for someone in New York.

Looks like a great project gun.

Maybe the pins are the broken tails of the ejector hammers.

I got the ejector mechanism apart. Everything is there but needs a good cleaning. In the second pic you can see one spring is longer than the other. I don't know how long they are supposed to be, or if one was broken/cut or if one was stretched. The ejector with the shorter spring kept de-cocking as soon as the forearm is removed so I'm thinking that spring has been shortened. In the third pic you can see the hole in the end of the ejector box where those pins went in. In the last pic you can see where the pins have been coming out and digging into the forearm wood. I think the pins were installed by someone for whatever reason and are not supposed to be there. I'm thinking they were installed because maybe someone thought the springs were coiling up inside the box and they didn't count on them popping out when the ejectors were activated.?

The pins should be one with the ejectors, they keep everything inline. You may indeed need to replace springs but make the ejectors and pins a solid piece before you proceed.

Now I see. Those pins are part of the ejectors. That will be fun getting those tacked back on straight.

Do they look like to original tails? Any chance you can see if the pins look like they broke off?
Just want to make sure that you are not about to weld some old nail of the wrong length onto the ejectors.
I think it was pretty common for them to break off. I have certainly seen them welded back together.
All that being said, be prepared that this may not cure the issues but this is the place to start.

It does look like they may have come off the ejectors. But, as they are now, if the ejector is back in the cock position, these pins protrude just out of the holes in the ejector box or housing. If the ejectors are ahead in the un-cocked position, they would go ahead far enough that they would be right inside the housing. Is that the correct way? Or should these pins still be just sticking out of the housing when the ejectors are full ahead? If so, then they are too short.

I just had a look at the link that Blue Grouse posted and by looking at the diagram, the pins should be protruding out of the housing when the ejector is back in the cocked position. So these pins are too short.