Thanks for the information, Mr. Thruxton. The gentleman who ordered my Boss in 1861 was IIRC the sixth child of the fourth Earl. I don't know what "no side to him at all" means, but I think the Earl you refer to was the sixth Earl and first cousin of QE2. He was the old gentlemen with the pointy beard in Prince William's wedding picture which we saw over here. The family fortune, I understand was made in the three corner trade. When I bought the old Boss, I got a copy of the purchase order from Boss, and followed the Lascelles surname in order to discover what I know of the owner's distinguished family...Geo