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Hi all, I recently bought a Pedersoli SxS hammer gun for grins to use at my university's trap and skeet club (they also go to sporting clays events). The LOP is too short for my 6'8" frame, so I got an orange Silvers recoil pad from Kynoch - figured a typical black pad wouldn't look right at all! - and plan to have it installed in place of the current flat steel buttplate. By doing so I should be able to gain about an inch of pull. Do you guys have any recommendations for who to do the pad installation? I'd like it to be fit and shaped properly with a smooth finish, and I worry local smiths won't have experience with this particular pad. At the moment, I was leaning towards sending the buttstock and pad into Griffin & Howe because it looks like they've installed these previously. Any thoughts and advice are appreciated. Kip Edit to add: I'm looking for a smith that knows how to install these particular pads, and then finish and shape them properly. I see a lot of pads that are left blocky and with the surface finish of an eraser. I'm aiming for an end result more like the pad on this John Dickson round action rifle. It's sculpted nicely and has a smooth finish.
Last edited by Kip; 10/27/22 03:35 PM.
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Brian Dudley is good. Really, just about any of the reputable double gun smiths can do it.
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Most smiths charge $85 to $100 to do this, and take weeks to get your gun back. My local guy does a flawless job, won't let me leave the gun with him, finishes the job in twenty five minutes, and the pad and the gun are separated after the initial scribing. He doesn't use a vice or a jig, only the scribe, some wedges, and a sanding block. He is reluctant to charge ten bucks. What's the deal here?
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Brian Dudley is good. Really, just about any of the reputable double gun smiths can do it. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll have a look at his site. Most smiths charge $85 to $100 to do this, and take weeks to get your gun back. My local guy does a flawless job, won't let me leave the gun with him, finishes the job in twenty five minutes, and the pad and the gun are separated after the initial scribing. He doesn't use a vice or a jig, only the scribe, some wedges, and a sanding block. He is reluctant to charge ten bucks. What's the deal here? I live in a small town in Illinois and the local guy only seems to work on Bubba's Deer Blaster™, I'd really rather spend a little more and know that it's going to be done correctly the first time. There's also a top nib to inlet into the wood.
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Who ever you have do the job ask them to seal the end grain. I’ve seen too many pads installed that had the wood swell if they got wet later. Takes just a few minutes to guard against this. I do my own with a jig and scribe. Funny how .010 proud or over trimmed looks like a major problem. I’ve done a couple twice because when you do it yourself you notice every blemish like a zit on your nose.
Worse were the gooey pads which were so popular 10 years ago. Few knew that they trimmed best if put into the freezer to stiffen them up first. Hated them and quickly tossed them into the trash bin and replaced them with a better, classic, pad. I’d even use a white line pad before using them again. You can always color that white line if you want. Gooey might sound soft and comfortable but they were mostly tacky to touch and picked up dirt and grime like a eraser.
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to pad or not to pad...
that is the question...
is it noble to add rubber to wood...
or wood a nobler thing, be to add wood to wood?
pads are stupid and ugly...
they add extra weight...
and change the balance and handling dynamics of fine guns...
Last edited by ed good; 10/27/22 05:32 PM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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be good and add wood...
or be bad an add a pad...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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I'm planning to ask them to seal the end grain and the lock plate inletting. Should be nothing more complicated than an oil rub into the grain, right?
Some of the club guns have the gooey pads, they feel awful to use and stick to my shirt when shouldering the gun. Hard pass on those. This Silvers pad seems quite hard and I've heard they take a good polish, looking forward to having it put on.
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It's a $2000 Pedersoli, I don't think it's worth enough to have a wood extension put on.
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Pretty sure mine came with a leather covered pad from the maker as a between the wars gun. There is nothing wrong with them.
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